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Old 03-19-2009, 04:10 PM
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Survival of the fittest I say! The Romans took Britain by storm, then the saxons took it then the normans took it and so on, each time Britain learnt a lot more of different cultures and ways of life and such. Britain has had its fair share of battles, many years ago it was very defendable its fertile and prosperous, it was a great land to own and then britain got skilled in warfare through its many conflicts external and internal... That has made Britain what it is today and so the rest of the world followed (it helps that most of the world was once part of the British Empire)

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i read up on that islands history because i was curious on how they got away with putting great in front of their name

i now have far more respect for it then other European nations
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I think what makes other super powers in this world is not from other super powers but rather one super power fails and burns to the ground, and a smaller one is always there to fill in that place and become the next.
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All it takes to become a super-power, really, is to decide you are going to become a super-power (and be prepared to have patience), and have none oppose you until it's too late (for them). Take the Mongolian Empire, for instance.
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I think it really takes a lot of history and steps to take to become a superpower. It's really not easy, and I think other countrie's progress (or vice versa) always affects it. You need like a spot freed in order to fill it up, which means another empire has to fall first.
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i think alot of factors come into play when a nations rises above the rest to stand as a super power

much of these factors are decided by the world around it similar to America becoming war-like due to being dragged into both ww's during its emergence (even though it didn't know itself as being powerful until mid-ww2)

i think America wouldn't have become the super power without the world wars Russia would have

America would have just been a isolationist economic ''great'' power

but without the wars some European nation or nations may have risen so its highly debatable
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Old 03-21-2009, 10:15 AM
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i think alot of factors come into play when a nations rises above the rest to stand as a super power

much of these factors are decided by the world around it similar to America becoming war-like due to being dragged into both ww's during its emergence (even though it didn't know itself as being powerful until mid-ww2)

i think America wouldn't have become the super power without the world wars Russia would have

America would have just been a isolationist economic ''great'' power

but without the wars some European nation or nations may have risen so its highly debatable
Britain, France And Spain all had about a third of the globe each at one point...

America being isolationist and only joining the war due to the attack on pearl harbour is sketchy theres a lot of suspicions there, some think a conspiracy... why would america have most of their fleet on an island so close to another super power and all in one place? America did side with the allies by supplying armaments and loaning money but it wasnt until they were attacked that they could rightfully end their policy of isolationism... America seemed a bit 'too' ready for war considering it was meant to be concentrating ONLY on domestic affairs...

Russia should have become a super power I love the russians XD communism is a great idea... it just doesnt work... " we are all equal, but i am slightly more equal than you " hehe
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Britain, France And Spain all had about a third of the globe each at one point...

America being isolationist and only joining the war due to the attack on pearl harbour is sketchy theres a lot of suspicions there, some think a conspiracy... why would america have most of their fleet on an island so close to another super power and all in one place? America did side with the allies by supplying armaments and loaning money but it wasnt until they were attacked that they could rightfully end their policy of isolationism... America seemed a bit 'too' ready for war considering it was meant to be concentrating ONLY on domestic affairs...

Russia should have become a super power I love the russians XD communism is a great idea... it just doesnt work... " we are all equal, but i am slightly more equal than you " hehe
It is true America was fully prepared for war and most likely joined in time. I believe the attack on Pearl Harbor just fast forwarded that join. However, if America didn't join the war, I strongly believe Europe(excluding Russia) would be under NAZI rule. Germany would have most likely conquered all of southern Europe then either bring most of the troops to the Russian border or invade (most likely unsuccessfully with how many Russian troops that were left) which probably would have forced a retreat to the boarder for a stalemate until both sides would grow tired and sign a non aggression pact with a no mans land between them. However, this is pure speculation and my opinion from hours upon hours of pondering in math class when the instructer in the front of the class wouldn't stop talking about numbers....
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However, if America didn't join the war, I strongly believe Europe(excluding Russia) would be under NAZI rule.
I wholeheartedly disagree. Fighting on two-fronts will only reap benefits for so long. A Russian campaign would cripple the Nazis on the eastern side, and draw out too many men and resources. The combined forces of the British and the underground French movements would eventually break through into France, and establish a foothold on a port. It would be far more difficult for the Nazis to invade Britain than for the British to retake France. Without America, it may have taken longer, but would not have changed the leadership of Europe.
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Britain, France And Spain all had about a third of the globe each at one point...

America being isolationist and only joining the war due to the attack on pearl harbour is sketchy theres a lot of suspicions there, some think a conspiracy... why would america have most of their fleet on an island so close to another super power and all in one place? America did side with the allies by supplying armaments and loaning money but it wasnt until they were attacked that they could rightfully end their policy of isolationism... America seemed a bit 'too' ready for war considering it was meant to be concentrating ONLY on domestic affairs...

Russia should have become a super power I love the russians XD communism is a great idea... it just doesnt work... " we are all equal, but i am slightly more equal than you " hehe
i understand what you mean by the states being fully prepared for ww2 but they werent for ww1 they didnt really need to be

as for ww2 if america didnt prepare for war then they would have had to be extremely stupid

if the allies fell it was either America's or Russia's turn next then japan after Germany got what it needed out of them
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Russia is a super power.
In fact, the 2 main superpowers today are the United States and Russia.
Besides, I'm a soviet so I'm also pretty patriotic. (But I'm not a nationalist, which means I don't say Russia is better than everyone else).
I think that all countries are equal in something. I don't see why war has to be so important, conflicts, etc. I mean, war is cool and epic and even "fun" in video games but nothing more. I wish war in Iraq ended, and any other threats... And there's no such thing as a good president, because if there is, he gets shot, and so on.
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