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08-23-2008, 09:56 AM
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The Madrid Crash Tribute
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMCwA3ESJ5M A recent crash here you can find out the names and hopefully say your Condolences and say a nice goodbye it would be nice because this crash was most unfortunate. Spanair Flight JK 5022, a McDonnell Douglas MD-82, registration EC-HFP, crashed immediately after takeoff on 20 August 2008. It was on a flight from Barajas Airport in Madrid to Gran Canaria Airport in Gran Canaria, Spain, and had just taken off from runway 36L of Barajas Airport at 14:45 CEST (12:45 UTC). It was the first deadly accident for Spanair (part of the SAS Group) in the 20-year history of the company, and the 14th fatal accident and 24th hull loss involving MD-80 series aircraft. It was Spain's deadliest aviation accident in 25 years.[2] It is the deadliest flight disaster in Western Europe since the Helios Airways Flight 522 in Greece. 153 people are now believed to have died, six while en route to the hospital and one overnight. The accident occurred at 14:45 local time during takeoff, according to Spanair.[5] Several other sources give 14:25 local time as the actual time when the incident happened.[6] The aircraft, christened "Sunbreeze", registration EC-HFP,[1] (manufacturers serial number 53148, Douglas line number 2142)[7] had been delivered to Korean Air on 18 November 1993 and was acquired by Spanair in July 1999. It was carrying a total of 172 people of which 162 were passengers, four passive crew members and six flight crew.[5] Following its takeoff roll and shortly after becoming airborne the aircraft reportedly experienced a fire in the left (port) engine (a Pratt & Whitney model JT8D-217C turbofan). Video taken by the Spanish airport authority AENA does not show any engine explosion while the Spanair MD-82 was taking off.[8] The aircraft then rolled to the right,[9] was unable to maintain adequate airspeed to prevent altitude loss and crashed in the vicinity of the runway, breaking into at least two parts which were engulfed by the subsequent explosion. Spanair reported that the pilot had previously attempted and aborted departure due to a sensor reporting excessive temperature in an airtake, and that the temperature sensor was de-activated on the ground (reportedly an established procedure since that sensor is redundant), delaying departure by over an hour.[10] Another takeoff was attempted, during which the fatal accident occurred.[11] Initial reports of casualties were mixed. Sources initially reported as few as 2 to 45 deaths, however, as the incident unfolded, the figure was quickly revised to upwards of 100. The Associated Press reports that a Spanish emergency rescue official claimed as few as 26 passengers survived the crash.[14][15][16] The rest are supposed to have died either in the crash or immediately after in the violent fire.[1][11][17][18][19] By 21 August, reports clarified there were 153 fatalities and only 19 survivors. Earlier reports had counted 26 survivors, but six of them died before arriving at hospital, and another one died overnight.[4] According to government officials, at least 15 of the deceased are not Spanish, including at least five Germans, two French, a Mauritanian, a Turk, a Bulgarian, a Gambian, an Italian, an Indonesian and two Brazilians. Among the survivors there are at least three non-Spanish citizens; a Swede, a Finn and a Bolivian.[20] Ervigio Corral, the head of the emergency services rescue team, said that the crash flung many of the survivors into a creek, lessening the severity of their burns.[21] There is not yet any formal account of the accident beyond some preliminary statements by officials. Magdalena Álvarez, the Spanish minister in charge of civil aviation, said that the aircraft briefly took flight and veered to the right before crashing. She also noted that investigators have recovered the two flight data recorders (one damaged), and that there was no suspicion of foul play.[22] On August 22 reports emerged that, contrary to some earlier witness accounts, the aircraft did not suffer an engine fire or explosion before crashing.[23] The Spanish airport authority (AENA) produced video for the media that shows there was no fire coming from the engines. (It is unclear if AENA will ever make the video publicly available). Manuel Bautista, Director General of Spain's aviation authority, went as far as to state, "The motor is not the cause of the accident",[23] surmising that a chain of events combining together is more likely than a single cause.[24] Aviation Week reported the probe was a total air temperature sensor, which is located on the front of the aircraft near the ****pit.[26] The aircraft's computer uses total air temperature to help calculate the ambient air temperature, which in turn is needed to calculate the aircraft's true airspeed. True airspeed, however, is needed for high altitude navigation, but is not so important for maintaining stable flight. When corrected for wind speed, true airspeed informs pilots of their progress over the ground. Indicated airspeed, a measure of the relative wind over the aircraft's surfaces, is a more important measure for ensuring stable, safe flight. The aircraft's stall speed closely relates to indicated airspeed, for example. It is unclear if a fault in the total air temperature sensor has any way of affecting the instruments needed for safe flight during takeoff. Nevertheless, Bautista insists it is important to look at all elements in context, and he has not ruled out the sensor as a factor in the crash.[25] Quote:
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08-23-2008, 03:19 PM
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Not enough maintenance, they think they can keep flying tin cans in the air without precautions and maintenance you end up with this. People dead, and a plane that is alot shorter then it used to be.
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08-24-2008, 07:31 AM
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Yeah I heard about that. The maintenance people for the planes over there need to step it up a bit.
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08-24-2008, 10:08 AM
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i start to feel bad about that company being owned by Swedish SAS
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08-24-2008, 11:36 AM
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Our government has striped all related to territorial defence. the only army we got is a couple of units for UN peace mission's Altough hot females is never bad  we can bribe russia with 'em if the need arises 
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08-24-2008, 12:45 PM
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I know but our country's army isn't whit us anymore
The only real troops we have is for UN peace mission as i said above
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08-24-2008, 03:16 PM
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You got from the "Madrid Crash Tribute" to "hot Swedish females" to "lack of Swedish army"?
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forget about your army just make friends with the usa and u will be fine :P
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