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Old 08-06-2008, 07:22 PM
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This thread just became my history lessons.......
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Old 08-06-2008, 07:43 PM
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http://wildfiregames.com/0ad/page.php?p=7464

i think u need to know more about this general if you need even more i have another much longer article
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Nice article. Now, Why didn't Hannibal take Rome then? He had all this power, the league of the Mediterranean...?

By the time he reached the city, he didn't have the men, supplies, or willpower to take the City of Rome. So while he gets a big shiny gold star for being the greatest general in history, which I don't argue, close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. It mentions in your article he sieged Rome, yes, but the romans ignored him for a reason. To an extent, Hannibal was so good that he was too good, like Wallenstein and Napoleon. The Roman's realized this and Stopped fighting him. They knew they couldn't beat him on the battlefield, so they attacked that which held him up, infrastructure. It notes in your article that His brother was attacked in reinforcing him. That was part of the plan laid down by Rome to deal with Hannibal. They attacked Iberia, they attacked the supply fleets, and more importantly, they attacked Carthage. Carthage was in shambles when he returned because of Roman sea attacks, which choked the city until it wasn't capable of defending itself. When this happened, Hannibal was Forced to return.

Also, between the second and third punic war, the League that Hannibal formed (Syracus, Greece, Macedon, ect.) All fell to the romans, one by one.

Was Hannibal Great? Yes. Was he good enough? No. This same thing happened to Napoleon 1900 years later. You cannot win a war by yourself. You can come close, but a great general is only as good as the nation that holds him up, supplies him, and reinforces him. If Hannibal had faced facts and become Roman, he would have conquered more area than Alexander the Great. Instead, he fought as a freedom fighter, and ultimately killed himself.

Hats off to you, you crazy Carthaginian, but horseshoes and hand grenades bro.
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Old 08-06-2008, 10:10 PM
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Nice article. Now, Why didn't Hannibal take Rome then? He had all this power, the league of the Mediterranean...?

By the time he reached the city, he didn't have the men, supplies, or willpower to take the City of Rome. So while he gets a big shiny gold star for being the greatest general in history, which I don't argue, close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. It mentions in your article he sieged Rome, yes, but the romans ignored him for a reason. To an extent, Hannibal was so good that he was too good, like Wallenstein and Napoleon. The Roman's realized this and Stopped fighting him. They knew they couldn't beat him on the battlefield, so they attacked that which held him up, infrastructure. It notes in your article that His brother was attacked in reinforcing him. That was part of the plan laid down by Rome to deal with Hannibal. They attacked Iberia, they attacked the supply fleets, and more importantly, they attacked Carthage. Carthage was in shambles when he returned because of Roman sea attacks, which choked the city until it wasn't capable of defending itself. When this happened, Hannibal was Forced to return.

Also, between the second and third punic war, the League that Hannibal formed (Syracus, Greece, Macedon, ect.) All fell to the romans, one by one.

Was Hannibal Great? Yes. Was he good enough? No. This same thing happened to Napoleon 1900 years later. You cannot win a war by yourself. You can come close, but a great general is only as good as the nation that holds him up, supplies him, and reinforces him. If Hannibal had faced facts and become Roman, he would have conquered more area than Alexander the Great. Instead, he fought as a freedom fighter, and ultimately killed himself.

Hats off to you, you crazy Carthaginian, but horseshoes and hand grenades bro.
true true but he swore to never be a freind of a roman

very true about u can only be as good as the nation holding u up imagine if the british empire had hannibal at its prime

or if hannibal were to fight america during our revolution would of been a wipe out dunno if i should laugh or be sad of that since im a hannibal barca fan and a american citizen =\

or if Abraham Lincoln was reincarnated and elected president instead of bush lol bye bye dept
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Old 08-06-2008, 10:15 PM
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SORRY FOR MAKING UR POST ABOUT CARTHAGE

nay way every strategy comes down to how well u control ur military no matter if u have a city with 20 layers of walls if you think archers counter ligth cavalry
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Old 08-07-2008, 06:58 AM
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The only thing I love more than building an impenetrable city is besieging my enemies impenetrable city. Some games make it far too annoying though, but Dawn of Fantasy seems like the right type of game for it.
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Old 08-07-2008, 09:45 AM
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The only thing I love more than building an impenetrable city is besieging my enemies impenetrable city. Some games make it far too annoying though, but Dawn of Fantasy seems like the right type of game for it.
i rather have a series of land battles before i even make it close to my enemies if i march right too him and destroy him ill be disapointed and would prob give them resources to build back up

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Old 08-07-2008, 01:28 PM
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i rather have a series of land battles before i even make it close to my enemies if i march right too him and destroy him ill be disapointed and would prob give them resources to build back up
Wow thats what im like if I pwn some1 too fast I usualy give them a break and let them build back up. Funner for both of us. I mean come on if the game lasts any shorter than an hour its a bit too short.

LONG GAMES FTW!!!!
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Old 08-10-2008, 12:20 PM
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i rather have a series of land battles before i even make it close to my enemies if i march right too him and destroy him ill be disapointed and would prob give them resources to build back up
Of course, I doubt they would yield the Pelennor unfought after all, or whatever they call the land around their cities :-P
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Old 08-11-2008, 10:57 AM
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Wow thats what im like if I pwn some1 too fast I usualy give them a break and let them build back up. Funner for both of us. I mean come on if the game lasts any shorter than an hour its a bit too short.

LONG GAMES FTW!!!!
My thoughts exactly if a game lasts shorter than at least an hour and a half it generally is way too short and cuts the enjoyment down majorly
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