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Old 01-13-2010, 08:06 AM
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I don't know who it was that originally decided that zombies were part of the fantasy genre, but I know they were wrong.
They are part of the cheap horror genre. Please dont mix like other games
The biggest thing youa re overlooking os that Undead are not just zombies, and never will be be.

Undead in fantasy range from Necromancers, Lichs, abominations, demons, zombies, skeletons, mummies, as well as a variety of other creatures.
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I agree, this thread has gotten way out of hand and people are un-reasonably being rude. Its just a suggestion, his opinion nothing that deserves semi hostile bickering. And if I understand peoples opinions correctly the OP is arguing against dawn of the dead brain eating type zombies, NOT(?) necessarily the type of ghosts/skeletons/lich's that are shown/used in things like DND, warcraft or other similar fantasy settings which is what people seem to be assuming and arguing back about the OP being wrong. Close the thread maybe?
Man up woman!

I kind of like the idea that, in lieu of creating a playable faction, the Undead could be incorporated into the campaign (not just an addition to some maps/minor events). As such the Undead, it could be argued, aren't technically/naturally a race, leaving scope for a variety of different ethnic Undead (ha, never thought I'd say that before). Having said that, if the Undead were turned living creatures that had their genetic information mutated to a similar degree, then they are a race. Same as ogres and orcs - similar, not the same. Perhaps not so ethnocentrically oriented
Imagine renegade sorcerers backing a thousand-strong army of Undead creatures popping up every now and then, having a go at your castle. Or a plague turns half/most/all the population of a neighbouring town, inclusive of soldiers, and you have to cull them. Fighting an unmanned-but-inhabited castle anyone?
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Would be fun, well i hope you never meet blackmore That is the town in my story on create a story, or the continuation. It tells about a unmanned but very much inhabited place, well it will be unnmanned
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Let use not forget the (first) orcs were mutilated elves, in a way, thats undead too.

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Undead in fantasy range from Necromancers, Lichs, abominations, demons, zombies, skeletons, mummies, as well as a variety of other creatures.
Vampires!
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ghosts and sometimes dark elves are, but not always. Also jellyfish don't count as living beings do they?
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ghosts and sometimes dark elves are, but not always. Also jellyfish don't count as living beings do they?
Jelly fish technically live, although they have no life as such... thats an odd one You already planning the undead naval units?

As long as the undead have some lich's, necromancers, plenty of forbidden magics and of course skeletal wyvern!!
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You guys are so crazy sometimes.

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Let use not forget the (first) orcs were mutilated elves, in a way, thats undead too.
Only Tolkien's orcs, the rest have their own creation myths. There's mention that Tolkien was actually unhappy with the current state of affairs and wanted to change the story into men as being the orcs' true origin.

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ghosts and sometimes dark elves are, but not always. Also jellyfish don't count as living beings do they?
Biologically anything that sustains its life functions, reproduces and ceases to function is defined as alive (this definition isn't text book precise but it's essentially true). In layman's terms anything that eats, ****s, ****s (in a sense) and dies is considered to be living and this includes jellyfish, viruses, sea cucumbers and a lot of other things too.

Also in all fantasy settings I know Dark Elves are as alive as anyone else. They may more inclined towards "dark magicks" than others but that only makes them evil, not undead. There are undead dark elves of course but the same goes for "regular elves", humans and any other "undeadafiable" creature.

I'm really curious why you singled out poor jellyfish. I mean I kinda understand it but still...
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Ok then to put it simply with the dark elves, once upon a time. I read a horrible horror book with lots of stuff that almost made me puke, then there were the elves. Good and kind if you don't get shot at first. Then you had the dark elves, beings that were life sustained only through dark magic, kinda like demons but they were rather like the elves but evil and "non living" So thats why the dark elves not always exist alive, sometimes they can be dead yet alive, thus undead. Ohh and it was not like they were corpses, they were created out of the spirits of the elves. Kinda like materialized ghosts

Also i singled out jelly fish because i hate them, also i was looking at a movie called the sphere. There the jellyfish are so evil they penetrate a girl's swimming suit and kill her
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You guys are so crazy sometimes.

They may more inclined towards "dark magicks" than others but that only makes them evil

I'm really curious why you singled out poor jellyfish. I mean I kinda understand it but still...
A - Yes we are crazy, but you love us for it!

B - That only applies if you see dark magic as evil...

C - I dont know why the jellyfish XD But its rather amusing

Blackfang... was the girl attractive?
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Well i don't really remember, i just remember the scene when they picked jellyfish out of her mouth. Terrible, also it was not a normal swimsuit it was a depth diving suit
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