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Old 07-08-2013, 05:51 PM
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Default Do levels make a difference to units?

Now when I say this you are probably going to put "yes ofcourse they do". What I mean is, does a unit gain any benefits other than the 3 skill points gained?
For example a level 1 group of swordsman attack a level 20 group of swordsman, no points are spent on the level 20 squad.
Would this be an equal fight, or would the level 20 steam roll the competition?
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Old 07-08-2013, 05:58 PM
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you skill with the points! so you can have from level 1 20 protection and at level 20 85 protection and more dmg of course
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Old 07-09-2013, 02:03 AM
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I knew that, just wondering if there was any base upgrade to the levelling
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Old 07-09-2013, 05:35 AM
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no just the skill points...
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Old 07-09-2013, 05:35 AM
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I knew that, just wondering if there was any base upgrade to the levelling
No there is no benefit to leveling other than the skill points.


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Old 07-09-2013, 11:50 AM
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Just remember those skill points are not permenant. So play around.
Switching skill points depending on what your facing is a key winning battles consistently.

That and fire arrows.
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Old 07-10-2013, 10:21 AM
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thanks for all the replies
I love that you can change skill points at any time too, you can adapt to almost any situation in the heat of it.
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Old 07-10-2013, 04:02 PM
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thanks for all the replies
I love that you can change skill points at any time too, you can adapt to almost any situation in the heat of it.
It's funny because it's one of my most loathed features in DoF because high end PvP turns into huge re-skilling contests. Would be really nice to only let you re-skill units outside of a PvP battle.
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Old 07-10-2013, 05:33 PM
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It's funny because it's one of my most loathed features in DoF because high end PvP turns into huge re-skilling contests. Would be really nice to only let you re-skill units outside of a PvP battle.
Problem is that you could get into a distinct paper-rock-scissors form of army set ups making more people bail out of fights upon seeing the enemy and realising there set up has no chance rather than, well, fighting.

I thought that a couple of minutes set up similar to before a pvp seige where you can see the enemy units might do the trick but then they would have to be able to change stats as well, giving way to a 4 minute digital thumb war over stat juggling before being nailed down.

so what about keeping the changes in the fly of battle and looking for improvements?

Well I don't think you can have saved skill 'loadouts' effectively as that could foreseably allow some rather devastating max damage charges followed by tank spec followed by mass stamina retreat followed by mass regen.
Even with a cooldown on switching that would be, frankly, nightmarish.

My personal suggestion is that first if you have more than the unit selection limit of a single troop type, you get another unit icon for those troops. Ideally we would like just to be able to select more troops but if that can't be done, I feel this is a great alternative. It would allow much quicker seperation and ordering of armies.

Now we can more easily select our units on the initial map we need to see about better ways for mass upgrading and respeccing. Some code/network streamlining to reduce the lag on spending those skill points would be nice as unless your going all in one stat I find you have to be fairly slow or all your clicks will not register.
Finally all this massively helps if you have nice big units of exactly the same level, but as your running around I'm sure you'll find one unit of bad ass terminators just seem to kill steal everything and end up 2-4 levels higher then the other units of the same type. When this happens things can be frustrating.
From what I can gather a mass selection bring up the highest level unit's stats but the abilities will activate across all units, the same applies for skills. The problem seems to be if that unit has less skill points to spend then a unit with more then you will have to individually upgrade the rest.....
Currently the best thing to do is occasionally go to a training camp to buff up units so that all of one type are the same level. I would think the best solution would be that a mass selection enables the skill button if any unit has skill to spend and is directly relative to the most aount of points a unit has availlable.

E.g
you have 3 archers 1 lvl 5 and 2 lvl 4
the lvl 5 hasn't leveled up at all in this hypothetical battle yet of the other 2 archers one started at lvl 3 and another at lvl 2.
When all archers are selected I would have, regardless of the main unit portrait, the skill button show 6 skill points available and as you spend them the game smartly acknowledges that only the first 3 skill points go to both lvl 4 archers and the next 3 only on the archer that leveled up twice.

Although something like this is in the game the problem is with the main unit portrait upon mass selection. Perhaps it would be infinately simpler to always show the unit with the most skill points currently unspent and only if there are no skill points available is the highest unit portrayed.

I think that makes sense.
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Old 07-12-2013, 03:30 PM
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Problem is that you could get into a distinct paper-rock-scissors form of army set ups making more people bail out of fights upon seeing the enemy and realising there set up has no chance rather than, well, fighting.
If someone is bad at creating a properly balanced army then that's the player's problem, not an issue with game mechanics. If you spam all archers why wouldn't you expect an army of all cavalry to bash your face in? It's why in Total War games having a balanced army is so important and much of the game revolves around proper army composition. That's sort of one of the best features of RTS games and Dawn of Fantasy throws all of that to the wind and lets your units be jack of all trades.
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