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nightovizard 03-13-2014 04:59 PM

Other Races?
 
Well, i have Heard that dwarves are going to be added as a main race so cool! But then i would increase the player cpacity of cities from 3 to 4 (when dwarves are released, so everybody has a chance to try them).

then as other posible oficial races, or mercenaries,or even npc enemies for PVE:

Lizardmen?: (Could have some relation with dragons?) some kind of bipod lizards/dinosaurs.
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/i/20...wy-d5xlij1.jpg
http://www.mimbral.com/files/cache/4...efabb43322.JPG
http://www.tikisaurus.com/wp-content...n-Aeon-SC5.jpg
http://cdn3.volusion.com/mexwq.hxrfd...jpg?1392669663
http://www.miniaturestudio.net/uploa...artikeya_H.png
They would probably become my favourite race.

Undead/vampires?
Mummies, skeletons, zombies, vampires, bats...
http://th02.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/...DrFaustus3.jpg
http://www.wallpaperup.com/uploads/w...782b812c49.jpg

Beast men?
Lycans, werebears, ratmen, etc...
http://images2.fanpop.com/image/phot...9-791-1024.jpg

Summary:

Humans/siege machinery/horses

Elves/living plants/spirits/unicorns
Orcs/goblins/ogres/siege machinery/wargs
Dwarves/steam machinery/Halfling/gnomes/golems
Lizardmen/Dinosaurs/dragons/hydra/kobolds
Undead/skeletons/vampires/zombies
Beastmen/werewolves/lycans/minotaur/Saytrs/Centaurs/Harpies/Gorgons/other mutants

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Then about for other posible dwarf units:

Sea:
Steam ship: http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a...rfIronclad.jpg

Ground: (They won't use horses, so they need some kind of counter for it, wether its heavy fire:
Steam tank: http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...r/behemoth.jpg (Gatling gun?)
or very fast:
Gyrocopter: http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...dwarf_gyro.jpg (normal rifle) would act like a dragon, can use the ability to fly ovee objects, but in noemal mode it flies close to the ground so melee units can attack it.

Steam gives new posibilities:
Steam chainsword shock troopers: http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/268/chainsword.jpg
Steam walker/mech: http://paizo.com/image/content/Pathf...kworkGolem.jpg (Same as elves siege trees?) (What about golems?)
Flamethrower
Bayonets for rifles.

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summary of the unit ideas on the thread:


Human - Orc - Beastmen - Elves - Dwarves - Lizardmen - Undead - Dragons
Peasant - Labourer - Tribesmen/ratmen - Warden male/female - Dwarven Workers/Miners - Indigenous Lizards - Zombie servants - Slaves
Swordsman - Goblin raider - Barbarian warrior - Bladestorm - Dwarven Battler - Lizard warriors - Zombies - Drake warriors
Maceman - Slayer - Minotaur - none - Dwarven Axeman - Lizard skirmishers - Ghouls - Drake paladins
Halberdier - Impaler - Satyr pikeman - Sentry - Dwarven Phalanx - Lizard Lances - Zombie pikeman - Drake pikeman
Foot knight - Berserker - Werewolf - Grand master - Dwarven Hammerheads - Lizard krokodils - Death reapers - Drake helljumpers
Archer - Goblin prowler - Barbarian archer - Rangers - Dwarven Rifleman - Lizard Hunters - Zombie archers - none
Crossbowman - Marauder - Satyr spearmen - none - Dwarven Axe throwers - Lizard dart throwers - none - Drake Archers
Cavalier - Beastriding Slayers - none - Ranger Mounted - Dwarven Battlewagon (Tank) - Mounted Lizard lances - Skeleton cart - none
Mounted knight - Impaler Beastriding - Centaur - Grand Master Mounted - none - Saurus Riders - Mounted death reapers - Wyvern Drake riders
Battering Ram - Siege ram - Siege ram - Treant - Dwarven ram - Armored lizard - Skeleton siege ram - Drake siege ram
Escalade - Siege ladder - Siege stairs - none - Dwarven Siege ladder - none -Skeleton siege ladder - Drake siege ladder
Belfry - Siege tower - Mammoth - Treant - Dwarvern Golem - Armored lizard - Skeleton siege tower - Drake siege tower
Trebuchet - Siege catapult - Giant - Bolt Thrower - Dwarven Cannon - Siege lizard - Skeleton siege catapult - Drake siege catapult
Oil cart - Ogre - Harpies - Garviola/Unicorn - Dwarven Gyrocopter - Carnosaurus/Hydra - Zombie dragon - Dragons green red black
Wizard - Shaman - Druid - Enchanter - Dwarven Technician - Chief Mage - Summoner/Necromancer - Pyromancer

Wilffio 03-13-2014 05:03 PM

Hello nightovizard... yes Dwarfs is planned, another possible race is undeads :) i would love lizards aswell, just because i played Warhammer and played heroes back in the good days with the Lizard people :) but keep coming with the suggestions and the devs will be looking into it.

/Wolf

nightovizard 03-13-2014 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilffio (Post 86963)
Hello nightovizard... yes Dwarfs is planned, another possible race is undeads :) i would love lizards aswell, just because i played Warhammer and played heroes back in the good days with the Lizard people :) but keep coming with the suggestions and the devs will be looking into it.

/Wolf

Yeah warhammer fantasy has a lot of diferent races. I agree with what you say, but i must add that the idea of having an army of werewolves and other beasts, sounds great too, not only undeads and lizards :)

So:

Humans/siege machinery/horses

Elves/living plants/spirits/unicorns
Orcs/goblins/ogres/siege machinery/wargs
Dwarves/steam machinery/Halfling/gnomes/golems
Lizardmen/Dinosaurs/dragons/hydra/kobolds
Undead/skeletons/vampires/zombies
Beastmen/werewolves/lycans/minotaur/Saytrs/Centaurs/Harpies/Gorgons/other mutants

sounds like a good plan to me.

Fennr993 03-15-2014 05:27 AM

something unusual
 
Lizards and beastmen sounds great. Really hoping to see something unusual in the futurue instead of the standaard races.

ElderDays 03-16-2014 09:50 AM

I think beastmen could be an interesting faction. Just lump all the mythical monsters together sort of like in Narnia.

-Minotaurs -Saytrs -Centaurs -Harpies -Gorgons and maybe throw in some of the modern fantasy guys too. -Gnolls -Kobolds (The dog/humanoid kind)

Lizardmen should certainly be grouped with dragons.

Steampunk dwarves have been done to death. I'd rather see the faction focused on other things. Goat mounted cavalry? Animated ancestor statues? Giving them a gnome unit might be cool.

I think a barbarian faction has a lot of potential. Sort of a mash up of Vikings Huns and Conan. It might be hard to make them distinct from orcs.

nightovizard 03-16-2014 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElderDays (Post 87035)
I think beastmen could be an interesting faction. Just lump all the mythical monsters together sort of like in Narnia.

-Minotaurs -Saytrs -Centaurs -Harpies -Gorgons and maybe throw in some of the modern fantasy guys too. -Gnolls -Kobolds (The dog/humanoid kind)

Lizardmen should certainly be grouped with dragons.

Steampunk dwarves have been done to death. I'd rather see the faction focused on other things. Goat mounted cavalry? Animated ancestor statues? Giving them a gnome unit might be cool.

I think a barbarian faction has a lot of potential. Sort of a mash up of Vikings Huns and Conan. It might be hard to make them distinct from orcs.

Beastmen would basically be half men/half beast, such as minotaur and werewolves/lycans, -Saytrs -Centaurs -Harpies -Gorgons could be there too. But gnolls are pretty much like werewolves and lycans (at least the idea I have about them), and kobolds are something more for the lizardmen than the beastmen.

now that I think about it about what you said about steam, I would like to see golems for dwarves too :D rock creatures could be another option for them. Goat mounted cavalry? well that sounds hilarious at first, but if the goats were designed well, and looked bad ass, it could work.

Barbarian faction would be similar to beastmen, which is a cool thing.

ReCoder 03-16-2014 12:08 PM

While other races are certainly hoped to have in the future this will not be soon, and if we add more it will be at the minimum in 2 or 3 months. Most likely later than that. Although lizardmen are my favorite :P

nightovizard 03-16-2014 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReCoder (Post 87042)
While other races are certainly hoped to have in the future this will not be soon, and if we add more it will be at the minimum in 2 or 3 months. Most likely later than that. Although lizardmen are my favorite :P

hope they are added soon :D but yeah, I understand that there are some issues and features that have to be fixed first.

Also I was thinking about something:

Humans/siege machinery/horses
Elves/living plants/spirits/unicorns
Orcs/goblins/ogres/siege machinery/wargs
Dwarves/steam machinery/Halfling/gnomes/golems
Lizardmen/Dinosaurs/dragons/hydra/kobolds
Undead/skeletons/vampires/zombies
Beastmen/werewolves/lycans/minotaur/Saytrs/Centaurs/Harpies/Gorgons/other mutants

That makes a total of 7 races. I remember that in the scenario editor there is Gaia, and then 1-8 possible players. so I think it would be interesting if every player could play with a different race in a match, but for that another additional race would be needed, so the question is, which race you would add to the list?

At first I thought about the giants, but I see some problems with them, first its dimensions, the weapons they would use etc... I decided to discard them.

Then I considered tritons, a kind oh humanoid amphibious creature, but the problem is that these things live on the ocean, in a underwater city like atlantis. So well I decided to discard them too (although it would be interesting to see them, at least as npc's, or maybe living in islands).
http://s.cghub.com/files/Image/70000...15/517_max.jpg
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs12/i/20...edibleandy.jpg
http://www.wizards.com/mtg/images/da...79_merfolk.jpg
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/20...er-d6ps3fe.jpg
http://randolfo.deviantart.com/art/O...agon-324439656

so I came up with another thing, very uncommon in fantasy: insects. I know, they are senn in many scfi as monsters or aliens, but they are very uncommon in fantasy settings.

Imagine some kind of mantis:
http://www.spk.la/wp-content/uploads...pokemon-6.jpeg
or ants, leaded by a queen/king (Your hero)
https://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/e...swordwing1.jpg
http://thiago-almeida.deviantart.com/art/Ant-358636800
http://critical-dean.deviantart.com/...-Race-60072228
http://critical-dean.deviantart.com/...pion-411554681

I think it would be interesting, maybe the insectoid men and the lizardmen could have been enemies for a long time in a yet to discover land found at the other side of the great sea. (when naval battles are released I would like to see the ''great sea'' as a possible battleground between continents).

This is the actual world map:
http://www.reverieworld.com/screenshots/worldmap.jpg

where lizardmen land and other races land could be located:
http://www.reverieworld.com/forums/a...7&d=1395011560

ReCoder 03-16-2014 06:34 PM

Insects are an interesting idea, although if we were to incorporate all of this I would think that we would expand the map, perhaps dwarves on the existing continent, and then expanding the ocean and adding navies and continent or large offshore island chain to add the other races. That would add a considerable amount of depth to the game. Perhaps even fishing fleets and maybe some new types of units to harvest resources from the ocean!

nightovizard 03-16-2014 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReCoder (Post 87065)
Insects are an interesting idea, although if we were to incorporate all of this I would think that we would expand the map, perhaps dwarves on the existing continent, and then expanding the ocean and adding navies and continent or large offshore island chain to add the other races. That would add a considerable amount of depth to the game. Perhaps even fishing fleets and maybe some new types of units to harvest resources from the ocean!

Indeed, with the new empire expansion, new world regions would be welcome. More towns and cities to conquer as well as new races and enemies.

And yes since naval units are going to be added, i would make a new continent separated by the great sea. Considering this, all races should have acces to the sea. This would bring brand new features to the game.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReCoder (Post 87064)
Nice models! There are lots of tutorials on creating organics, I'm actually working on that for a school project at the moment. What software do you use? I may be able to point you in the direction of some good resources. While I like the location in the desolate area the fact that you put them in the two dwarf areas doesn't make much sense! Perhaps a map expansion would be necessary to incorporate them into the game world.

I use wings 3D and blender.

And i actually placed the new regions on blank sites as i used this map as base:
http://www.reverieworld.com/screenshots/worldmap.jpg

Decided to add the beastmen next to the dwarves regions as these regions are in the north and full of mountains, as well as far from civilisatio. also they have an entrance to the sea at the north. All this gives them a barbarian viking feeling, which is good in my opinion. This is a race i wouldnt place in another diferent continent.

Under the beastmen, you can find the undead, necromancers, vampire lords, zombies, skeletons etc... I decided to place them there for 2 reasons: 1 you know of the werewolf-vampire relation, thus i think the borders of both undead and beastmen should be connected. 2 there is a place called the deathlands next to it, perfect setting for them. They have an entrance to the sea on the south.

Then i decided to place lizardmen and insectoid men in a diferent continent at the other side of the great sea. These are the most "exotic" races, and they both live in the jungle and resemble aztecs and maians, so this new continent could be like south America.


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