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miklos1
09-07-2012, 12:41 PM
Is there something we can do about ppl quieting in a middle of match when they start losing?
It declares the other person winning can they get the reward?

buddhist23
09-07-2012, 02:32 PM
pretty sure u still get stuff

miklos1
09-07-2012, 05:36 PM
didnt register if i did. Kinda screws up the idea of pvp if ppl dont want to fight buy the attack protection

Sunleader
09-08-2012, 12:46 AM
Hmm
From what I remember if you Quit during the Match it was handled like you Paid Out from the Fight

So usually you should get some Reward from it



Any Dev there to tell us how this is currently handled ?

Konstantin Fomenko
09-09-2012, 12:09 PM
Yes you do get the full reward if the other person quits.

In the next patch we are actually rebalancing this - making pay-out more expensive, and reward for winning (and lossing) that much more. So if defeated player actually stays till the end - instead of "paying out" and loosing resources, if he actually looses in the end - he`ll get a large influence reward and won`t have to loose resources.

Sunleader
09-09-2012, 02:13 PM
Well then
I am not 100% up to date due to the Fact that I am in the last half year of my Apprenticeship as Electrician and thus dont have much time


Back then it was like this

If you Gave up or Disconnectet during a Fight you were handled like you Paid Out.
However, The Pay Out is calculatet at your actual strengh
so if you already got Defeatet badly and lost large part of your Army the Pay Out was very small
which is very annoying for the Attacker but also not really good for the Defender because he of course needs to lose Units for this first.


I dont know if the Payout being Calculatet by actual Army Strengh is a Bug or Intended

I always tought its a Bug because its actually very Unfair
after all the Attacker Already took Massive Losses and then gets less Reward on top

But its also been a while that I was on the Battlefield :P
I log in once in a while to do some Questing and Level my Hero
but I have hardly done any PvP anymore :)


Greetz

aramsm
09-09-2012, 05:28 PM
Are you sure that if you disconnect you py off? I remember that I only get stucked and "A player has disconnected" msg appeared.

Konstantin Fomenko
09-09-2012, 07:08 PM
I remember that I only get stucked and "A player has disconnected" msg appeared.
The player who got disconnected does pay off (even if he turned the power off), but the other player doesn`t receive anything. Otherwise two friends could exploit this system.

Sunleader
09-10-2012, 05:35 AM
So basicly the other Player Force Crashing the Process wont lose anything despite Paying Off
and to prevent people from using this to create ressources this way the Winner will also not receive any Reward.

But that also means that people can Exploit this to prevent the Loss of Ressources :(


Maybe it would be better if the Server could safe the Status of that and then deduct the losses properly when the User Relogs
that way it could not be abused because the loser would always pay his losses no matter if he crashed the process or got disconnectet unintentionally


I know other Games even use a System where the Game is haltet for about 2-3 minutes allowing a User to Reconnect so he can even try to restart the Game and then rejoin the Battle and prevent a pay off or penalty

but well thats antoher story
I.ll not mix in too deep into this :P
at least not before February when i got my Exams behind me :P

aramsm
09-10-2012, 01:56 PM
The player who got disconnected does pay off (even if he turned the power off), but the other player doesn`t receive anything. Otherwise two friends could exploit this system.

Im not sure if I understand but it looks like this doesnt prevent friends of exploiting it because my friend could simple pay-off without disconnecting right?

Sunleader
09-11-2012, 02:06 PM
What he means by Exploiting is that theres only Loss in doing it.

So if someone Disconnects the other Player wont Receive any Pay Out
Because the one who Disconnectet will often not get his Status Saved and those not lose any Troops beyond what he already lost.

Which means if the other Player would receive the Pay Out it would be possible to Create Ressources that way by simply Fighting a Friend then Disconnecting and having your Friend Receive parts of your Army and Ressources while not actually losing them yourself



I guess they dont have it working yet that the status of an Player can be safed even after he Disconnects
or maybe they dont know yet wether or not they should be lenient or not on those who really got disconnectet
dunno

Greetz

Novakiller
09-17-2012, 04:44 PM
I can confirm that when i've been legitimately disconnected from the fights back when disconnects was a regularity, I would pay out a lot of my resources, half my Army AND my gold, this happened to me so many times I actually stoped PvP'ing in this game because of that.. Especially when your roaming around trying to complete quests and then get forced into a PvP fight when you dont even know whats going on because you used to get flagged for pvp seconds after comming out of a quest area, mostly bad luck but it used to happen a lot before the protection system was in place...

Regardless, I can confirm, if you quit, or disconnect YOU PAY OUT!!!, no matter what...