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Zackreaver
12-06-2011, 10:40 PM
Lets face it people, nothings sadder than knowing your level 20 or so Mounted Knight, Ogre, or Treant just bit the dust, couldn't get him out of that fight in time, all that training getting him up to that high level all gone for good.

So what, hes just gone for good? No memory of his legacy other than just a screenshot saying "I had one"

I feel heroic units like this deserve their own gravestone honouring their glorious times.

Just think about it "Here lies the level 20 Mounted Knight (custom name here), who died after slaying 300 ogres at the hands of (Enemy player if exists)"

Basically, high level unit dies, we get a gravestone to place somewhere in our home city honoring his death. Along with our own text to commemorate our loss.

Or even better, "Here lies jojo, the level 20 ogre who choked on the 6 millionth human skull he tried to eat."

That way, next time you have a friend visit your town, they can say, "Wow you had a unit that high?"

Edit: Additionally, how about a TrophySkull/Statue of our opponents high level units when we slay the elites of an enemies high level unit. What better way to create a strife between two players, than a constant reminder of who was responsible for the death of their greatest warriors. And an intimidation to other players, when they see that you were responsible for slaying the high level units of a top level player.

Eaglecrys
12-06-2011, 11:34 PM
I really like this idea lol would help to create those bonds with your city toons and such. Also great bragging rights for some or visa versa heh

andreicde
12-07-2011, 02:06 AM
I love that idea. seems like a good way to show you have it

Sunleader
12-07-2011, 07:02 AM
Haha

Its a bit Funky but I agree on the Idea
iSuch gimmicks are always worth some Time


Greetz

Zackreaver
12-07-2011, 08:07 AM
The key thing when thinking of these gimmicks is "How can our game be made better, without the dev team losing months of sleep over it" (Granted I don't know how difficult this would be to implement, but it's not like I'm asking for a whole new race or anything)

I'm sure everyone wants more ways to decorate our city, well this is a harmless little way of doing it, while also lessening the blow of losing our high level units.

Now instead of "CRAP I let my high level unit die *Insert multiple explitives here*" it will be "Crap I let my high level unit die... Rest in peace old friend, you will be avenged."

More dramatic feeling, feels more realistic in terms of the emotion of war, and makes our units feel more alive than just simply pieces of data on a server.

Sunleader
12-07-2011, 08:40 AM
Couldnt care less about Dramatic


I am the Type of Person which gets pretty addictet to his Units


I will also Immediatly get Additional Heros and Other Special Units which like Dragons can reach lvl 60 and will hopefully revived



Greetz

Konstantin Fomenko
12-07-2011, 12:11 PM
We can easily add a graveyard - that grows with a new tombstone for each dead battalion. However - how do you picture the engraving working? - and doesn`t it seem a bit excessive? For us work on Engraving is probably gonna take 10 X more time than just adding graveyard & tombstones.

Sunleader
12-07-2011, 12:58 PM
Well Actually how about this



Just make a Graveyard which will be Increaed by one Tombstone for any Max LvL Unit that Dies
Now if you Click on it you can see a the list of the Units which Died

Than it would be just a simple script call which will add the Unit to a list

Wont take much space and should be fairly easy to Programm

Zackreaver
12-08-2011, 05:38 AM
We can easily add a graveyard - that grows with a new tombstone for each dead battalion. However - how do you picture the engraving working? - and doesn`t it seem a bit excessive? For us work on Engraving is probably gonna take 10 X more time than just adding graveyard & tombstones.

Well I figure just let us put our own engravings, as a sort of note to commemorate the loss.

Sunleader basically nailed it, graveyard could just be a list of units (or list of high level units) that have perished recently. It could just have the unit type, and it's level upon death showing next to the unit, and optionally could show the enemy unit that caused the killing blow, and also optionally the enemy player (if exists) who was responsible for the deed.

Then for each unit on the list, let us have the ability to basically just put a note next to it, if any of this is too excessive then go with whatever is simplist. Just having a list of the recently dead works too.

Also, potential influence market here, you could somewhere down the line let players revive fallen squads with an influence cost based on their level, (like 1 to 3 influence per level) of course I think it's probably better just to let them rest in peace for the dramatic effect.

nuraiel
12-09-2011, 02:21 PM
I kinda like the idea, of the growing graveyard, where you just get a text list with fallen units and the possibilty to add a one sentence eulogy. Although then it should be possible to name units BEFORE their untimely demise otherwise the fun would be greatly reduced^^.

Concering buy back/revive mechanics - personally I would save that as a special mechanic for a possible later undead race (as they went fairly high in the poll).

Sunleader
12-09-2011, 03:42 PM
Hmm
I proposed a Mechanic to that for Honor Guard Units and other Heros

As I said some time ago

I am one of the people who grows some attachement to his Units


The Pair of Swordmen I got along with my Hero at starting the Game
have been with me forever and have only been Discarded due to Bugginess

If not for that I would still have em
I sort of treatet em as my Heros Escort and Honor Guard after all :P



Greetz

knightl
12-19-2011, 05:15 AM
i think it would be great if you could take the enemy banners as a trophy as they did say they were working on them

Joseph Visscher
12-19-2011, 12:39 PM
Sorry guys, i just think its a horrible idea, we have better things to develop than grave yard. It would be okay if we had nothing else to make, fix, polish, improve, but that will never happen ~ we will always have more things to improve, like Hero customization, Alliances, Pathfinding, better online play without lag... :) still a neat idea but it doesn't give enough benefit for its development.

buddhist23
12-19-2011, 02:31 PM
Agreed. Units are made to be used -- and die for good. Just like in real life..game can't get any more softcore...

knightl
12-21-2011, 05:56 AM
Sorry guys, i just think its a horrible idea, we have better things to develop than grave yard. It would be okay if we had nothing else to make, fix, polish, improve, but that will never happen ~ we will always have more things to improve, like Hero customization, Alliances, Pathfinding, better online play without lag... :) still a neat idea but it doesn't give enough benefit for its development.

one question if you could answer are banners still planned for release?

Brian Shingles
12-21-2011, 06:38 AM
one question if you could answer are banners still planned for release?

Yes, we'll add custom banners some time in the new year.

This isn't the best video, but it will give you some idea of the variety of banners that will be available to humans.
3eSaff1UCgM

knightl
12-21-2011, 06:40 AM
Yes, we'll add custom banners some time in the new year.

This isn't the best video, but it will give you some idea of the variety of banners that will be available to humans.
3eSaff1UCgM

yay i saw banners before and i remember them and btw THATS alot for just one race i love it and was wondering are they going on walls and units?

Brian Shingles
12-21-2011, 06:53 AM
yay i saw banners before and i remember them and btw THATS alot for just one race i love it and was wondering are they going on walls and units?

With the combination of colours, patterns and symbols there should be thousands of possible banners for each race.

Banners will most likely go on the walls, on the Town Hall/Grand Hut/Settlement and be carried by armies on the world map.

knightl
12-21-2011, 06:58 AM
With the combination of colours, patterns and symbols there should be thousands of possible banners for each race.

Banners will most likely go on the walls, on the Town Hall/Grand Hut/Settlement and be carried by armies on the world map.

nice can't wait to see what the community comes up with but one question could it be possible to apply the banner on our units chests or our heroes cape or the sort as a sort of crest as when hero customization comes out this would be one of the small details that would impress quite a few and one more thing it says you live in north-west america but i thought reverie was based in north east Canada?

Brian Shingles
12-21-2011, 12:37 PM
nice can't wait to see what the community comes up with but one question could it be possible to apply the banner on our units chests or our heroes cape or the sort as a sort of crest as when hero customization comes out this would be one of the small details that would impress quite a few
That would be impressive and may be included one day, but won't be added any time soon.

and one more thing it says you live in north-west america but i thought reverie was based in north east Canada?
I need to update that, I don't live in North West England at the moment as I moved to Coventry.

Reverie as a company is based in Toronto where Kon lives, but has staff around the world who work remotely. Remember, Reverie started from the modding and scenario design communities of other games and most employees were recruited from there.

knightl
12-21-2011, 06:10 PM
That would be impressive and may be included one day, but won't be added any time soon.

nice i was hoping for something like this to come after all the important fixes are done ( a while )



Reverie as a company is based in Toronto where Kon lives, but has staff around the world who work remotely. Remember, Reverie started from the modding and scenario design communities of other games and most employees were recruited from there.

ah i never knew that theres something interesting

Zackreaver
01-16-2012, 06:03 AM
Sorry guys, i just think its a horrible idea, we have better things to develop than grave yard. It would be okay if we had nothing else to make, fix, polish, improve, but that will never happen ~ we will always have more things to improve, like Hero customization, Alliances, Pathfinding, better online play without lag... :) still a neat idea but it doesn't give enough benefit for its development.

Ouch, stick a dagger in my heart why don't ya.

But yeah I wasn't expecting any of yall to lose sleep over it, nice to hear honest feedback though.

And I agree there is better stuff to work on than this, it's just an idea that came to my head one day trying to think of ways to make fully killing enemy battalions feel less like griefing (I can't help but feel bad after causing someone to lose that much progress)

Still, I love all the replies this got, thanks for the feedback all.

selridion
01-19-2012, 12:55 PM
you could make it that you could give a platoon a name after it reaches for example lvl 10

then just make the gravestone simple like...

here lies the "uber leet epix" battalion
they fought with vigor for our people
we shall never forget there heroic deeds

:P