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Gruber12
11-01-2011, 08:56 AM
wow.... jsut wow. Firefly have murdered a great game series. I finished downloading today and could only handle 20 mins of gameplay before having to turn it off. They have taken a game with such potential, threw it against the wall, set it on fire then violated it until it started to cut itself. The economy aspect is completely destroyed, siegfe warfare is just watching some guys with swords knock down your stone walls and food production is about building as many farms as possible so you can support more peasents to work in more farms so you can support more peasents to work in even more farms just so you can have a small amount of food in your granary 10% of the time.

I suggest keeping away from this game or killing it with fire

Oratory
11-01-2011, 09:13 AM
I sadly have to agree. I hate seeing such a good series of game go down the drain like that. Lets just hope they have as dedicated people as reverie have to make stronghold 3 good with some time.

Gruber12
11-01-2011, 09:14 AM
stronghold crusader was the first one i played and i was stuck on it for years, iam completely disappointed in it :(

Konstantin Fomenko
11-01-2011, 10:38 AM
I`ve played every single Firefly game - and I think that shows in some of Dawn of Fantasy`s design - we were definitely influenced by Stronghold games. And there I was picking up Stronghold 3 - thinking - maybe I`ll see some cool stuff - some gameplay ideas to include in DoF or our next game…
Well - let me put it mildly - I didn`t see any ideas worth “copying”. I do think I got my 50$ worth though - Stronghold 3 made me feel great about our own DoF`s release - sure DoF has bugs, but woah… at least game installs in English and not French. And we do patch like 10X more...

Dreamwalker
11-02-2011, 05:18 PM
I`ve played every single Firefly game - and I think that shows in some of Dawn of Fantasy`s design - we were definitely influenced by Stronghold games.

Never thought of that, but so true-the sieges just scream stronghold! :D

I haven't bought Stronghold 3, and now, I think I can safely say that I never will. Wonder why the ruined the series like that, though.

andreicde
11-02-2011, 07:19 PM
yeah I played stronghold 1 and 2 and I used to love them.I checked reviews on stronghold 3,disaster.I checked their forums,people were dying to get their money back.And from what I heard,it's just terrible. Soldiers that can attack stone walls,wolves that can jump over the walls,etc. I understand reverie's DOF has bugs,but that's normal considering it's a small company but I never expected that from a big company like firefly. But then again big companies are start to fail even more,look at DA2.

Gruber12
11-02-2011, 09:34 PM
well hopefully bethesda and bioware keep it together for skyrim, dragon age 3, bioshock3 and mass effect 3

andreicde
11-02-2011, 10:06 PM
well hopefully bethesda and bioware keep it together for skyrim, dragon age 3, bioshock3 and mass effect 3

bioware will fail with dragon age 3 for a good reason:They plan to keep the parts they added to DA2. In other words it will still be fast attack style ,recycled areas and boring quests.That's basically what made DA2 fail. Trying to please old fans and also kids who like fast action games.Go figure why us mature DA:O fans don't like DA2 when you see the warrior in DA 2 with 2 handed hammers acting as if he had a toy hammer,mage acting like a martial artist with his staff and rogue jumping all over the place and teleporting behind the enemies,you know something is wrong.

And apparently the staff were proud of their work on DA2 and got mad on the fans who didn't liked their work .So apparently it's our mistake for not appreciating their new style. Oh and I forgot to add they removed choices and dialog from DA2. you know how you could have choices on the ashes,werewolves/elves ,dwarf king and so on?that's gone or leads to same events. And the dialog is so lame that instead of the usual choices they went with a ''funny '' dialog, arrogant dialog or nice(good person) dialog. No more choices,you can just pick good,bad or jester and that's about it.Yep big improvement from DA:O to DA2.

Joseph Visscher
11-02-2011, 10:33 PM
Sure hope we do not do the same thing with Dawn of Fantasy 3! ;) :p I skipped it but i really like i economy in stronghold 2, walls in all the stronghold games that i found where insanely weak, feels really weak, wooden walls, swordsman cut them down!
I think walls should be an asset to control over against your opponent, whether you are attacking or defending...

karamot
11-03-2011, 04:04 AM
stronghold 3 is not a game

its just an amatorial comic created by some java designer....

no graphic, no videos, no contents, its an alpha of some kinda games like

szebus
11-03-2011, 01:19 PM
Firefly said that he want's to bring back Stronghold "1" in this game but ... You all sad it right and i have nothing to say more, except that Stronghold Kingdoms even if it is a kind of browser game, is a much much better game than Stronghold 3.

Gruber12
11-03-2011, 04:01 PM
i loved both dragon ages :eek:

Tarsus
12-01-2011, 08:11 AM
bioware will fail with dragon age 3 for a good reason:They plan to keep the parts they added to DA2. In other words it will still be fast attack style ,recycled areas and boring quests.That's basically what made DA2 fail. Trying to please old fans and also kids who like fast action games.Go figure why us mature DA:O fans don't like DA2 when you see the warrior in DA 2 with 2 handed hammers acting as if he had a toy hammer,mage acting like a martial artist with his staff and rogue jumping all over the place and teleporting behind the enemies,you know something is wrong.

And apparently the staff were proud of their work on DA2 and got mad on the fans who didn't liked their work .So apparently it's our mistake for not appreciating their new style. Oh and I forgot to add they removed choices and dialog from DA2. you know how you could have choices on the ashes,werewolves/elves ,dwarf king and so on?that's gone or leads to same events. And the dialog is so lame that instead of the usual choices they went with a ''funny '' dialog, arrogant dialog or nice(good person) dialog. No more choices,you can just pick good,bad or jester and that's about it.Yep big improvement from DA:O to DA2.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, when series or company goes to EA, it is never coming back for air. Rush, rince, repeat - Next. At least we have the mod kits for DA:O so there will be life after the series has died a horrible butchered death, for years to come.

Eaglecrys
12-01-2011, 10:27 AM
I loved all the previous stronghold games played them forever it seems lol. Redownloaded alot of my old ones so my wife and kids could mess around on them. Now DoF is out and it is what I play.

I would 100% agree though that stronghold 3 is crap. So excited such a HUGE let down. Almost seems more like hey we know we will get your money just because of our past :p

Zackreaver
12-02-2011, 10:16 PM
I`ve played every single Firefly game - and I think that shows in some of Dawn of Fantasy`s design - we were definitely influenced by Stronghold games. And there I was picking up Stronghold 3 - thinking - maybe I`ll see some cool stuff - some gameplay ideas to include in DoF or our next game…
Well - let me put it mildly - I didn`t see any ideas worth “copying”. I do think I got my 50$ worth though - Stronghold 3 made me feel great about our own DoF`s release - sure DoF has bugs, but woah… at least game installs in English and not French. And we do patch like 10X more...


Hello there, feel I should come out and say this. I was so hoping that stronghold 3 would fix the problems that firefly has been making with their sequels, such a high amount of dissappointment I came accross from finally seeing it.

I have to say though, I have been keeping my eye on DoF for a while now, and I played the closed beta/open beta, and had my doubts on whether or not the game was something truly for me.

I first had interest in DoF because it looked like the MMORTS version of stronghold that I always wanted, but I let my beta experience sort of turn me off (Discovering I couldn't design my own castle design was the major part)

But now, after realizing that all hope with firefly is just gone, I realized that DoF is quite possibly the exact game I've wanted to follow.

And I have Konstantin to thank directly, As a CEO it has a huge impact when you post in your forum about your experiences with a game, especially stating the influence that stronghold games have had on your games development. There is no greater persuasion to buy a product, than when the CEO comes out and says exactly what people have on their mind.

I definately want to support a company like this, and though I may have been a poor tester (judging a game based on it's beta performance) I feel that developers that stay in touch with their community is definately the best way to go.

Basically, this is a dramatic way of me saying, WOW the CEO likes the things I like, I wanna support you, your forum post just made me finally cop out and buy the game :) See you all online.

PS. that doesn't mean I didn't like beta testing the game, I just originally thought it wasn't what I was looking for, but then I realized their inspiration came from the same game, that made me want to play this in the first place, so I might want to stick around and be a supporter.

Joseph Visscher
12-02-2011, 10:34 PM
I was going to buy stronghold 3 as i lived stronghold 2,,, but i think i rather play dof instead.

Zackreaver
12-07-2011, 12:09 AM
I was going to buy stronghold 3 as i lived stronghold 2,,, but i think i rather play dof instead.

DoF is a superior game, simply because DoF has the dev team that actually gives a rats ass :)

Perkons
01-08-2012, 10:19 AM
Former Firefly fan here :) Something like Heroes IV :)

szebus
01-08-2012, 10:28 AM
Former Firefly fan here :) Something like Heroes IV :)

Yeah, you got it right. Stonghold 3 to stronghold series is like Heroes 4 to heroes series. :))

Joseph Visscher
01-10-2012, 12:12 AM
I'm not telling you guys what to do here,,, it would be interesting to see a flood of people go onto firefly studios forum and tell all the angry people that want their 50$ back to know and become aware of dof's very small existence. Save some heartbroken sh3 fans some hurt of not having there game the way they wanted it...? :D

knightl
01-10-2012, 08:14 AM
I was going to buy stronghold 3 as i lived stronghold 2,,, but i think i rather play dof instead.

i think that opinion might be a little biased ;)

I'm not telling you guys what to do here,,, it would be interesting to see a flood of people go onto firefly studios forum and tell all the angry people that want their 50$ back to know and become aware of dof's very small existence. Save some heartbroken sh3 fans some hurt of not having there game the way they wanted it...? :D

i tried that but got raged at for trying to insult their game when i said dof is what stronghold was promised to be so im staying away from there

buddhist23
01-10-2012, 02:45 PM
I've heard stronghold3 has gotten somewhat better and playable.