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wou129
05-05-2008, 01:06 PM
:( i am not good at form **** in fact this is the first time i use a form:( but i wanted to know if there is a beta coming soon if yes what date and if its closed or an open 1

(:confused: sorry fore my very bad englich:confused: )

Darvin
05-05-2008, 01:10 PM
There will be a beta, but no date has been set yet.

frankein_fish
05-06-2008, 01:26 AM
And everyone member of this forum will get to play the beta

Toralero
05-06-2008, 05:14 AM
really? whil the beta be like a demo and since i thik you whil launche the game in the US aeny ide if it wil come in EU????

frankein_fish
05-06-2008, 08:39 AM
Well i dont know if it will be open or closed but if it's closed everyone member of this forum will get access to the beta (Atleast that's what they said)

Jean=A=Luc
05-06-2008, 12:04 PM
It's possibly they meant only those who were members at the time.

Grizzlez
05-06-2008, 12:52 PM
It may just be certain active members of the forum the team feels they can trust and are really interested. Someone with one or two posts and doesn't show much interest probably wont.

The Witch King of Angmar
05-06-2008, 02:23 PM
You must also be really dedicated and a hard-core fan as well.

Neotyguy40
05-06-2008, 02:35 PM
Let's see...

Me,
Witch,
Sparrow,
Jean,
Frenkenfish,
Slayer,
and a few others will definately get into the beta if it is devoted fans only.

Ovocean
05-06-2008, 03:03 PM
Are you a male chauvinist Neotyguy? Where's the male-female parity in your list? :D

crex719
05-06-2008, 05:07 PM
Im excited about the beta too, hope my comp can run it...

Neotyguy40
05-06-2008, 07:49 PM
Are you a male chauvinist Neotyguy? Where's the male-female parity in your list? :D

Well, I never usually pay attention to if someone is a girl or a boy... It was just coincidence that no girls showed up. :cool:

cherbui
05-07-2008, 02:46 AM
ek i hardly even post lol

Jean=A=Luc
05-07-2008, 04:43 AM
Girls? Boys? All that's missing is the pedobear. :p

wou129
05-07-2008, 07:03 AM
Let's see...

Me,
Witch,
Sparrow,
Jean,
Frenkenfish,
Slayer,
and a few others will definately get into the beta if it is devoted fans only.

then i have to hurry a bit up with my posts

Neotyguy40
05-07-2008, 02:35 PM
Girls? Boys? All that's missing is the pedobear. :p

Whos pedobear? It sounds like some kind of mexican tv show.

Puppeteer
05-08-2008, 02:29 PM
Nice to know I've been forgotten, I have more posts than you Neo, and been here longer (I think). Anyway, I think Reverie will choose on maturity, contribution to forums and time.

frankein_fish
05-09-2008, 02:56 AM
Well the last time i cheked, everyone here would get to play the beta

Konstantin Fomenko
05-09-2008, 07:04 AM
Open Beta will be well - open. But first to get in will be out forum members. Both active and inactive - as long as you have an account.

We should start massive testing before we get to beta though, and for closed testign we would much rather invite all the active community members (active being - a dozen of post during June)

cherbui
05-09-2008, 07:54 AM
thats cool :)

The Witch King of Angmar
05-09-2008, 02:46 PM
Could you tell us what would be in the beta for the active members?

Jean=A=Luc
05-09-2008, 04:17 PM
Could you tell us what would be in the beta for the active members?

The game, what else? It's pointless to have a beta just for a part of a game. Probably not the campaign though.

crex719
05-09-2008, 04:59 PM
Well get discussing if you want a spot!
I hope we get an almost completed MMO part so we can get familiar with the features

( BTW any Men players wishing to form an alliance when the game/beta is out PM me..)

Generation
05-09-2008, 06:35 PM
wonder when beta comes out

frankein_fish
05-10-2008, 02:40 AM
( BTW any Men players wishing to form an alliance when the game/beta is out PM me..)

Maybe,maybe But how do i know that u wount betray me *Snort* :p

Axal01
05-10-2008, 03:05 AM
Maybe,maybe But how do i know that u wount betray me *Snort* :p

Im going to be peaceful and do trades. if thats possible? :P you need gold? I can trade you for some food muwhahaha.. southmount alpine I shall be. prosperous and questerous mwuahahhaaa rwarrrrr :eek:

frankein_fish
05-10-2008, 04:03 AM
I'll kill ya with my hardned alpine men's MWHAHAHA

(This conversation is going out of subjet)

Puppeteer
05-10-2008, 06:29 AM
I remember in Age of Empires 2 but mostly 3 I'd have mediocre resources for gold and wood (and stone in number 2) but for food it skyrockets. Unintentionally, I'd collect far more food than anything else. For this game I hope to break the habit!
Ah, the beta. Here's hoping it has the dragons :D

Jean=A=Luc
05-10-2008, 08:17 AM
What I'm wondering is if Reverie will have a more experienced team of testers available too because with all due respect I don't trust this community, including myself, to make good balance suggestions.

frankein_fish
05-10-2008, 09:06 AM
What I'm wondering is if Reverie will have a more experienced team of testers available too because with all due respect I don't trust this community, including myself, to make good balance suggestions.

:( *Sniff* Im gonna go cry with all my 340 carebears

(Altough u got a point there)

Puppeteer
05-10-2008, 09:26 AM
Yes, and I'm sure it would require a quota of hours per week to test it, which because many (if not all) here are still in school perhaps can't dedicate that time to it.

frankein_fish
05-10-2008, 11:07 AM
Well i could. Not that im not in school but i can still dedicate say... 5Hours per day.
And even more during saturday and sunday.:cool: :cool:

wou129
05-10-2008, 11:14 AM
yea mea to but i realy want to know when beta comes out what mont day or week

(sorry fore super bad englich ):confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

frankein_fish
05-10-2008, 11:44 AM
July is what im thinking but then again im not the most optimistic guy^^

Axal01
05-10-2008, 07:32 PM
No school,no work. Living off drawing interest so I have all the time in the world.. :D

Generation
05-10-2008, 10:02 PM
how do i get a higher rank?

cherbui
05-11-2008, 01:48 AM
whats up with 340 carebears ? O.o .. btw is there a tool to learn to be a tester ? would be nice to know ^^ for the inexperiencs ^^ like me hehe

frankein_fish
05-11-2008, 02:42 AM
btw is there a tool to learn to be a tester ? would be nice to know ^^ for the inexperiencs ^^ like me hehe

Gotta say i dont know any tool like that.
And to generation: To get a higher rank u gotta post (Sparrow duplicate?)

Jean=A=Luc
05-11-2008, 05:53 AM
how do i get a higher rank?

btw is there a tool to learn to be a tester ? would be nice to know ^^ for the inexperiencs ^^ like me hehe

This kinds of things are one of the reasons why I made that statement. We'll be ok for general bugs, glitches, interface issues etc. but when it comes to balance or key gameplay mechanics the devs would probably be better off doing the opposite of what the community tells them.

Cherbui, no there isn't any "tool" that can help you learn to better test the game, you test the game by playing it and the only things that can help you are experience, common sense and an understanding of the game's gameplay elements and their mutual interaction.

Puppeteer
05-11-2008, 07:47 AM
Do what I have done, and guess what others have done, test some mods for games. But still, as Jean said, they would need far better people (in the beta all I was there for was to sport glitches, unfinished parts and bugs). Still...

cherbui
05-11-2008, 07:13 PM
ah thanks ^^ ... i jean and pupp =)

wou129
05-12-2008, 04:05 AM
lol mod testing is boring if u playd the game alrady what mostly is in case

(sorry fore my bad englich)

frankein_fish
05-12-2008, 04:57 AM
Nah a good mod should make the game fun and engaging again!

wou129
05-12-2008, 12:00 PM
coud be depents on the game

(Sorry for my bad english)

iceblast
05-12-2008, 12:09 PM
question:

what is the difference between closed and open beta testing?

wou129
05-12-2008, 12:11 PM
dont know fore seure but i think with open evry 1 is alowd and with closed the company chooses we is alowd

(Sorry for my bad english):( :( :confused: :confused:

frankein_fish
05-12-2008, 01:39 PM
Yep in closed beta they choose who is alowed to play while open is free for all to play.

Puppeteer
05-12-2008, 03:06 PM
Depends on mod, for example RJ-ROTWK mod for Lord of the Rings, The Battle for Middle Earth II Expansion Pack: The Rise of the Witch King (phew!) adds so much cool stuff for the elves it is unbelievable. Whilst noting down bugs, placeholders and spelling errors/grammar errors (my speciality lol the pedant) I was amazed!

crex719
05-12-2008, 05:14 PM
^^^^ Hate to be off topic but...
BEST MOD EVER

Back on topic...My whole commonwealth of Men thing....is it technically possible?

wou129
05-13-2008, 01:12 AM
what do u mean dont anderstand u

frankein_fish
05-13-2008, 01:26 AM
Back on topic...My whole commonwealth of Men thing....is it technically possible?

Hope so, altough i didnt quite get that

wou129
05-13-2008, 02:58 AM
lol this topic is about beta

crex719
05-13-2008, 05:07 AM
LOL? Its about the beta...basically forming teams/guilds/clans in the beta so...

LOL ON YOU

wou129
05-13-2008, 09:44 AM
lol back on you man i forgot to put the quote at it sory man so u dont know what i am talking about

frankein_fish
05-14-2008, 01:23 AM
Whew. It's been like a week since the last serious post :/
Hopefully no longer :rolleyes:
Back to the mods, i genneraly dont play mods but if it's good it wount be long before i play it :p

wou129
05-14-2008, 11:49 AM
:( :cool: only mods i use are from supcom
andi dont realy see somthing in mod i think its like using cheatcodes:(:cool:

Puppeteer
05-14-2008, 01:35 PM
Are you referring to the Men as British? (commonwealth) If so, good :D

crex719
05-14-2008, 02:33 PM
Commonwealth was the only word I could think of lol I am not even British I just know big words...

Neotyguy40
05-14-2008, 04:17 PM
Commonwealth was the only word I could think of lol I am not even British I just know big words...

Commonwealth is British :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: ???

Jean=A=Luc
05-14-2008, 04:52 PM
Commonwealth is British :eek: :eek: ???

Yeah, the empire over which the sun never sets an' all that jazz. :)

Puppeteer
05-15-2008, 08:59 AM
Either Neo is fantastically sarcastic, or fantasticly stupid... hard to tell

wou129
05-15-2008, 01:44 PM
what the **** are u guys talking about

LordSlayer
05-17-2008, 09:03 AM
Are you a male chauvinist Neotyguy? Where's the male-female parity in your list? :D

If you can find any big female fans, plz say :)

Neotyguy40
05-17-2008, 07:52 PM
Either Neo is fantastically sarcastic, or fantasticly stupid... hard to tell

Hey! I'm neither! I never even heard that word before and I am being sarcastic!

wou129
05-18-2008, 02:15 PM
what the **** are u guys talking about

ELLO RESPONDE

frankein_fish
05-19-2008, 02:24 AM
ELLO RESPONDE

Why...
Hmm i havnt seen sparrow here yet :p
Just a matter of time probably :/

wou129
05-19-2008, 09:36 AM
i stil dont get u guys

frankein_fish
05-19-2008, 11:17 AM
We'r talking about Neotguy's stupidity/Sarcasm :rolleyes:

Grizzlez
05-19-2008, 12:41 PM
Do you think you will get any mod tools out with the beta-to make sure their user friendly for those not experienced with them?

The Witch King of Angmar
05-19-2008, 02:48 PM
I'd say yes to that.

Joseph Visscher
05-20-2008, 12:22 AM
Do you think you will get any mod tools out with the beta-to make sure their user friendly for those not experienced with them?
Its a possibility, most likely yes, but don't be fully counting on it.

frankein_fish
05-20-2008, 01:10 AM
Hmmm id like to see a mod tool but im not living for it :p

Puppeteer
05-20-2008, 12:17 PM
Mod tool? I suppose that would be nice so eventually we could try and add what we want in (LOTR DOF!!!!!). But I still can't wait for that one-of-a-kind map editor! :)

Grizzlez
05-20-2008, 03:26 PM
Puppet I had the same idea, i'm doing a modelling and animating course to get to know how to do 3ds max a bit better, so with the graphics tablet i'm buying I may try some stuff to make a new bfme mod. My stuff at the moment isn't good enough to make a whole mod.

wou129
05-21-2008, 12:47 AM
wholy shid are u a art disiner or somthing

frankein_fish
05-21-2008, 01:09 AM
Still cant wait for the beta :D :rolleyes:

Puppeteer
05-21-2008, 01:36 PM
Puppet I had the same idea, i'm doing a modelling and animating course to get to know how to do 3ds max a bit better, so with the graphics tablet i'm buying I may try some stuff to make a new bfme mod. My stuff at the moment isn't good enough to make a whole mod.

The version of Bfme that should have been made :D
really? is that free? nice one! I can see you making the first mod!

raving
06-01-2008, 02:15 PM
hmm gieb beta ^^, just found out about the game today, and i must say its been since red alert 2 since i was this psyched up about a game. it looks totaly awsome.:D

Neotyguy40
06-02-2008, 07:31 PM
Yay! I'm not the only 3d graphics designer!

LordSlayer
06-04-2008, 02:59 PM
Yay! I'm not the only 3d graphics designer!

Did you even think for a minute thet you were the only 3d graphics designer in the whole community?

Neotyguy40
06-06-2008, 03:02 PM
... Well, duh! Not many people heard of DoF, theres like what... 20? Maybe 30 active people?

Ryan Zelazny
06-06-2008, 04:01 PM
... Well, duh! Not many people heard of DoF, theres like what... 20? Maybe 30 active people?

According to the Forum Statistics we have 92 active people. However this takes into account people who login, not people who post.

crex719
06-06-2008, 05:06 PM
We need to make videos of us playing the video and put it on youtube to attract people.

The Witch King of Angmar
06-06-2008, 07:54 PM
Or you could just put banners up on sites like IGN.

frankein_fish
06-07-2008, 01:47 AM
Yeah a banner across half the site :p

raving
06-07-2008, 04:25 AM
just try to get into the newspaper and mention this game alot!! ;) go save somebody or so :o

Bastiaan
06-08-2008, 01:44 AM
i think banners cost much money to put on a site like IGN so i dont think they have the money for it.

olauwers
06-08-2008, 04:43 AM
Well, maybe they know people from other sites that might be willing to advertise?

I think we might be able to convince some of the HeavenGames staff, no? Some of the people working on this project have good contacts, there, I believe.

Ryan Zelazny
06-09-2008, 09:48 AM
Right now we aren't really working on creating a lot of marketing for DoF. We encourage people to join the forums and to discuss the game, but right now we don't have enough content coming out to spend money or resources on advertising. We will be doing a lot of heavy PR closer to the Beta.

raving
06-09-2008, 10:13 AM
well u guys where in my favorite magazine ( PC GAMEPLAY ) where they did a did a previeuw of your game. Thats how i found these forums ^^.

The Witch King of Angmar
06-09-2008, 10:49 AM
Could people on the forums donate for ads?

Puppeteer
06-09-2008, 11:57 AM
With this great work, I don't think advertising will be much of a problem for Reverie. Rumours spread by us guys and pictures of DoF will bring enough members and customers to crash the flood gates!

iceblast
06-09-2008, 01:05 PM
advertising in magazines and ign is the best solution :P.

Grizzlez
06-09-2008, 05:26 PM
If the marketing isn't done well or enough of it, the game could turn into a Universe at War type disaster where no-one knows it. As this game isn't based on a film or book it means there is no fans from that area-and word of mouth might not be enough. Adverts across many forums and websites are usually the best and Tv commercials showing gameplay or an action movie, if done well can appeal to millions of viewers. Tv adverts for Viking:battle of Asgard was what made me buy the game.

Ryan Zelazny
06-09-2008, 05:35 PM
well u guys where in my favorite magazine ( PC GAMEPLAY ) where they did a did a previeuw of your game. Thats how i found these forums ^^.

Thats cool Raving, would you mind posting or PMing me with what they had to say. They must've found out about us on their own because we weren't contacted.

Bastiaan
06-10-2008, 12:33 AM
Thats cool Raving, would you mind posting or PMing me with what they had to say. They must've found out about us on their own because we weren't contacted.


i read it too (it is a dutch magazine) and they were very excited over it but they wondered if you guys could make every feature of the game work and if you guys weren't over excited.

raving
06-10-2008, 03:09 AM
Thats cool Raving, would you mind posting or PMing me with what they had to say. They must've found out about us on their own because we weren't contacted.

OK you where on the first page of articles there was. Ill try and translate it fully but forgive me if i get typo's or wrong translations in there :D

---- Article ---

Dawn of Fantasy

It is always something with RTS games. Either you get a good singleplayer experience and the multiplayer aint that great or you get a good multiplayer and the singleplayer aint something to write home about. Rts games who score good on both fronts are rare. This is the opinion of the new Canadian gamedeveloper Reverie World Studios who with the RTS-game Dawn of Fantasy has started a very ambitious project. The makers do not only promise big RTS-maps ful of RPG-influence forseen of a 30 min dialoge for each scenario, they also try to offer for each map thousands of units who can crawl, climb and swim. And in stead of one multiplayer component they have foseen the game of two. meaning a clasic online formule and a MMORTS formule. Another example of taking to much hay on the RTS-fork or should we be starting to get enthousiastic?

Dawn of fantsasy is played in a Fantasy-world named Mythador where four races (Men, Elves, Orcs and Dragons) make each others life hell. The game is forseen from a singleplayer-campagne whith twelve scenario's which presents the four races and also gives a central hero for each race. You start of this game as a young prins, the son of Lord of Dagbor, who leaves for a diplomatic mission and finds his father half-death when he returns. Dagbor is in state of war and it is for you to find out who is behind the attacks. In this story you will also be crawling in the skin of the Messias of Eternia (Orcs), of a starting Archmage (Elves) and of a royal young Dragon. Twelve scenario's does not seem much but the creators emphasize that every scenario is big and it will take twice as long to play then the bigges mission in other RTS-games. Every scenario is full of life, forseen of a great amount of story elementals and dialogues and is forseen of a ton of scripted events wich will make sure there is always something to do.

OVERCOOCKED POTS OF BACON ( they love to use weird titles ;))

Dawn of Fantasy trys to simplify the basic building by giving you a basic town or homethow where you can ready your troups and lead the gathering of rescourse. You can also put on a feature wich will make rescourse gathering fully automatic so you can fully foucs on strategy. Each of the four races has its own background, unique architecteur and unique units. The men is the youngest race in Mythador and has a prosperiteus economy , brave knights and strong castles wich makes them perfectly capable to attack and defend. The Elves are combined with High Elves and Wood Elves, have taken the forest and the plains of Fairwaith. The Wood Elves are masters in building life communities in and between the gigantic trees of Fairwaith and are mostly feared cause of their lethal archers. The High Elves are know for there fine cities and marmer citadelles and there very skillful in calling up magical spells. The Dragons are the oldest and most wise race in Mythador and make the player capable of playing Royal Dragons, Half-Dragons, and Half-Orcs. And the Orcs are ofcourse well know for their brute strenght and beastlike cruelties wich can not be missed in any fantasy RTS-game. Orcs have a weak economie but can depend on the support of goblins and ogres to strenghten their ranks. The makers try with Dawn of Fantasy to bring the standard RTS-units to a new level. All units are driven by a individual AI who does not only provide many tactical capabilities like wall climbing over walls or swimming over a river but also gives ton of animations which represent the emotional status of youre units. Units are also very good animated wich gives a ragdoll physics wich does the realisme in combat nothing but good. The Heroes under the units can also gain experience and gain new special abilites wich many are passif so you don tneed to be spamming youre keyboard shortcuts like crazy. Remarcable is taht all races do not only have melee-, ranged-, healer- and magic units but that there is also a chapter with naval combat forseen. And to top it of there is also a impresive Siege chapter completed with ladders, batering rams, storm towers and trebuchets. As player you can build at any place and any time a campment to lay siege on youre enemy's cities, but ofcourse you have to defend youre own cities aswell. You put some archers on the walls, put some pots with hot oil on the fire and yell: "Come and get it!".

Persistent Hometown

The most impresive thing about Dawn of Fantasy is that the game offers two multiplayer modes. The standaard onlie mode makes you capable of playing the classic multiplayer games (up to 8 players) on wich you expand your fort, create troops and slaughter your enemy, in a team or own your own. But the game is also forseen of a MMORTS-gamemode on wich almost everything you have obtained in a onlie game (city, army, Heroes and their experience points) are transfered to their next mission. In this gamemode it will take a lot longer before you can build a blossoming economy and ofcourse there is a limit on what you can collect during a mission. If you win you get to take everything with you. If you lose, then the game switched back to youre posessions two games back and you get a nice amount of damage on youre walls to proces. In the MMO-mode each player owns a piece of land with on that land lakes, rivers, forest and mountainchains. During a game youre piece of land is placed against an other opponent and between youre lands is some randomly generated land and let the battle begin. A heavy loss also has consequences for the land. Woods can burn and your cattle can be slaughtered wich means you will have less rescoures in youre next mission. Luckliy these rescoures regenerate automaticly wich will give you the oppertunity to go back to your previous level. U see it, there is no lack of ambitieus features in this game. We will only have to wait and see how the end game looks like.

There thats about the enitere thing :D enjoy reading.

iceblast
06-10-2008, 01:18 PM
A good advertisement would be to put the game trailer on fantasy films in cinemas before the film starts that will attract quite a good interest because thats what they do with the video games.

Ryan Zelazny
06-11-2008, 09:57 AM
Thank you for posting that Raving.

raving
06-11-2008, 12:37 PM
no problem

olauwers
06-14-2008, 09:23 AM
Did you guys know about this? Dailygamesnews.com posting your movie on youtube. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=RWWE17rVd1o&feature=related)

The Witch King of Angmar
06-14-2008, 10:20 AM
Great, hopefully that will draw in some people.

raving
06-16-2008, 05:39 AM
oh god i cant wait to play this game!!! :D so lets promote good so we got enough people to play against :o

Joseph Visscher
06-19-2008, 12:24 AM
Did you guys know about this? Dailygamesnews.com posting your movie on youtube. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=RWWE17rVd1o&feature=related)

Damn that trailers so old, can't wait for the new one to be released. :cool:

olauwers
06-19-2008, 06:20 AM
Damn that trailers so old, can't wait for the new one to be released. :cool:

We neither, so what are we waiting for? :p

Khyron
06-20-2008, 05:43 PM
Did you guys know about this? Dailygamesnews.com posting your movie on youtube. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=RWWE17rVd1o&feature=related)

Hopefuly we will have a few more players than the trailer suggests. "Expand your empire with hundred of other players each seaking to expand their empire". When the beta starts up and and forum members are allowed to join the beta, we should have hundreds of players alone should the 210 nonactive forum members enter beta. Let alone when open beta starts, and the new trailer rumored above is released.

Grizzlez
06-20-2008, 05:59 PM
I wouldn't have thought hundreads of people would get the beta, need some people to get the game who haven't played before :p Would most likely be to try to find and fix any bugs before the game is released to limit patches required. Nothing worse than a game that takes 3 patches or more for it to be balanced and near perfect.

iceblast
06-21-2008, 05:35 AM
I wouldn't have thought hundreads of people would get the beta, need some people to get the game who haven't played before :p Would most likely be to try to find and fix any bugs before the game is released to limit patches required. Nothing worse than a game that takes 3 patches or more for it to be balanced and near perfect.

*cough* universe at war *cough*

still isn't perfect after nearly 8 months on the market and 3 patches.

Joseph Visscher
06-21-2008, 10:00 PM
Regarding patches.
If any of you get into the gaming industry you’ll understand why that is.

Esculas the Mighty
06-22-2008, 07:56 PM
a new trailer sounds pretty darn sexy when can we get a look into it?

wills370
08-28-2009, 03:45 PM
it is out now so check it out :) also the beta thread has also been opened if you havent seen it.

Sauron_9Gods9_Ldr
09-03-2009, 01:00 PM
i would only trust members who know what Balance truly means to set the Balance lines, games like BFME2 Balance was awful to the max. i myself know what it is considering i had to learn it to design its alot of work and massing and such is hard to Balance.

wills370
09-04-2009, 04:23 AM
i would only trust members who know what Balance truly means to set the Balance lines, games like BFME2 Balance was awful to the max. i myself know what it is considering i had to learn it to design its alot of work and massing and such is hard to Balance.

say again sorry i didnt understand that. Might be becouse im really tired but hey.

Darvin
09-04-2009, 01:16 PM
I think he's saying that he would only trust people with a great deal of experience to make specific balance recommendations for the game.

Aametherar
09-04-2009, 01:43 PM
*cough* universe at war *cough*

still isn't perfect after nearly 8 months on the market and 3 patches.

I remember my first (and last time) playing that game in beta. Twas 1v1 and the game lasted multiple hours before I finally said, you know what I don't think I care about winning as much as you, and left. My units were too big and strong yet also too slow to advance position while his were too numerous and constant for me to push forward leaving what was pretty much an eternal battle from hell in front of my base.

wills370
09-06-2009, 11:59 AM
I think he's saying that he would only trust people with a great deal of experience to make specific balance recommendations for the game.

thanks for the translation :) and hmm i think everyone can have an idea. You dont need lots of experience in scripting etc to know if a game needs tweaking to make it more balanced. Take TW that was really unbalanced on the new game. untiolll the mod came out to tweak it.

You get a feel for the game by playing and if 10 units of horses can desimate an entire army . You know tweaking is needed to that specific unit same with archer range etc.