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Lee7778747
02-01-2011, 03:57 PM
The other question I have is about how long does it take to seige a castle? Am I going to need an hour or is it going to only take me like 15 or thirty minutes to take it?

Conceive
02-01-2011, 04:14 PM
im assuming that it depends on your opponents defense... it can be 10 minutes to an hour?

Lee7778747
02-01-2011, 09:11 PM
I'm meaning on average. The other question is....is there going to be a way to pause the siege if it is versus a human a challenger....cause I mean stuff happens at home and I would just want to forfeit a big battle if my son throws up or something like that.

Dracus
02-02-2011, 12:18 AM
I'm meaning on average. The other question is....is there going to be a way to pause the siege if it is versus a human a challenger....cause I mean stuff happens at home and I would just want to forfeit a big battle if my son throws up or something like that.

I highly doubt pause will be available since it could easily be exploited. Maybe lan games could be paused but I highly doubt online games will be pausable.

Pyrasia
02-02-2011, 01:14 AM
*Five more mins and I will log off and go to work*
3mins later
*Shooooot. Someone's attacking my castle*

Thaiden
02-02-2011, 02:48 AM
I'd think based on the armies of both players it could last quite a long time. More the better :)

Corpsebloom
02-02-2011, 03:12 AM
*Five more mins and I will log off and go to work*
3mins later
*Shooooot. Someone's attacking my castle*

Sometimes thats just how it goes in online games. Really this shouldn't be any more of an issue than it is in any other game.

Smikis
02-02-2011, 10:07 AM
Sometimes thats just how it goes in online games. Really this shouldn't be any more of an issue than it is in any other game.

surrender and pay teh tribute :mad: or dont stay online 5 mins from work :D

kessevan
02-02-2011, 03:50 PM
All I know is that I really hope there will be epic, hour long battles that end in total annihilation.

Lightchef
02-02-2011, 05:08 PM
I realy hope it takes like an hour! it would make you feel so more awsome if you win! :)

Lee7778747
02-02-2011, 05:09 PM
Yeah me to I was hoping for the long battles like make it seem more real and more satisfying at the end of it all

arthas242
02-02-2011, 06:37 PM
long battles are better and more fun battles

NobleIre
02-02-2011, 08:22 PM
If every battle takes a really long time, then it might get kindof dull. But I don't imagine battles will be short either. I would think, and ofcourse i'm just guessing, that battles will mostly fall into a mid-range. Say, 20-30 minutes. That's long enough to give you a decent fight, to allow you to use strategy, without dragging it out. However, I would like for the potential of having larger more involved battles.

arthas242
02-02-2011, 10:19 PM
good point, but i don;t want it to become a rush game ethier, because that is basically what a lot of rts become, rushes. in AoE every game will say rush or no rush *time*. even in starcraft and warcraft, everyone rushes, very few don't and that is usually not because they do not want to, but that they are not very good.

ethier way i can see it being a problem if u get super long 3h battles a lot and boring if u do everything in 10 minute's. but i personally like longer game's then short one's *around a hour ish*

Stormeh
02-03-2011, 01:34 AM
Yeah I'd say the time would be dependant on army size and level of defence/ Offence being put into play. The more equally matched the longer I assume.

Hans
02-03-2011, 05:59 AM
good point, but i don;t want it to become a rush game ethier, because that is basically what a lot of rts become, rushes. in AoE every game will say rush or no rush *time*. even in starcraft and warcraft, everyone rushes, very few don't and that is usually not because they do not want to, but that they are not very good.

ethier way i can see it being a problem if u get super long 3h battles a lot and boring if u do everything in 10 minute's. but i personally like longer game's then short one's *around a hour ish*


IMO THE BEST MATCHES START WITH A RUSH, AND END WITH A WAR OF 1:30 Hour ;)

darkviju
02-03-2011, 06:34 AM
I don't think they will last too much. Compare it with any other RTS, like Total War battles. It will be too much to have 1 hour battles, and not everybody can play the game a lot of hourse everyday.

swuopa
02-03-2011, 08:46 AM
with 2 player involved in a battle, can arrive a third player to help one of them?

Lee7778747
02-03-2011, 09:40 AM
with 2 player involved in a battle, can arrive a third player to help one of them?

definitely a good point there. Can other players join in on offense or defense for that matter and flank the offensive opponents . Could add another element to the game.

ZyndromZ
02-03-2011, 02:11 PM
It can't be longer then 30min.. i guess?

Noel Bohac
02-03-2011, 04:28 PM
It can be short or very long indeed depending on the scenario in question. This is really giving no info way on the current game play (IE I really can't say something directly) but as a gamer (I love saying that) like many of you, I can assure you that you can have epic battles or fast scims all depending again on the scenario.

Is it a siege? how many defense are there, what are the numbers on both sides ? Are the defenses stone work or wood? Did you bring enough siege equipment? or has the defender put up a ton of trebs? Did you have to fight your way to their keep and loose units on the way? Did you get mercenaries to backup your numbers? What is the current experience of your troops overall? Are you going in green or elite? How are the defenders troops? Did he/she establish a range paradise? or did he/she go with Calvary for a sneak attack when you are not looking?

Maybe the attacker is going for a resouce hit to knock out all resources then make a run for it? Perhaps it's a counter manuver for an ally that is really after your other alliance member and this is a ploy run? Does he hold his attack longer then usual? Do you go out to meet him? Do you give chase to only be countered by another force? In the scale of EPIC , I have no doubt you guys will enjoy what you see here.

The questions and answers are endless, you won't be disappointed ;)

So the answer is yes, epic long battles and short as you would expect in pretty much any game you have played. I like to think of it as BFME2 meets Stronghold = awesome baby ;)


-Noel

Thou again these are "my personal opinions" and in no way reflect those to Reverie World Studios, 505 games or any subsidiarity there in. (always got to throw that in there! Thou I am sure a few here agree ;) )

Lee7778747
02-03-2011, 04:56 PM
grrrr. you always give good replies but I want details!!!!!!! but I'm just glad you guys are out in the forums replying to us thank you for doing what you do and I can't wait to get a look at this game!!!!!

Dawiichan
02-03-2011, 05:21 PM
I'm guessing around one hour. I wouldn't mind around 30 minutes~2 hours though, I like long fights the most.

lamaking65
02-03-2011, 07:45 PM
hmm well its a siege so i would think thats up to the attacker and whether or not he has enough troops or supplies and even if its worth attacking anymore so it could possible be hrs my question is thou since this is a mmo and attacks can and mostly likely will happen when ur away do ur troops defend themselves in the siege like act like an npc or do we give them instructions on wat to do when attack????>.<

Noel Bohac
02-03-2011, 09:40 PM
hmm well its a siege so i would think thats up to the attacker and whether or not he has enough troops or supplies and even if its worth attacking anymore so it could possible be hrs my question is thou since this is a mmo and attacks can and mostly likely will happen when ur away do ur troops defend themselves in the siege like act like an npc or do we give them instructions on wat to do when attack????>.<

If you have a good setup in the location , your in good hands if you happen not to be there. The AI does a very ample job and is getting better daily with each and every new build in house. So when you are not there, you are in good hands not to worry, but as an attacker you will also have to fight that same AI, so it is up to the player to lay out the defense that he/she leaves in the region. But to another point...

There are many features about the "away" status of a player that are constantly being addressed and as you have undoubtedly heard in other games from other Dev's, things can change so telling you something now (the reason we sadly don't respond to so many great questions ATM) is it might change on our next internal build. We want the best game we can deliver and every smallest detail is being hammered on over and over and over to make it perfect. Even after launch undoubtedly things will be added and adjusted.

When we are finally ready to open the doors (so to speak) I think you will be pleasantly surprised indeed. I am for one excited to see your guys reactions and I know they will be very positive. I hate replying sometimes because I don't want everyone to get their hopes up so high that if something doesn't make it in at launch, it would be a huge disappointment.

I know how that is, been there done that plenty. But you know, this game is worth getting excited over, heck I bash away at the same repetitive activities over and over and it gets very daunting indeed. But in the end, I believe in the game, the team, the community and all together that keeps my drive going , the team going and the knowing that what we got is just plain freaking awesome :)

The gaming world needs a solid game like this. As a strat player for years and years, I have always dreamed of the day where we as players would have a consistent world to fight in and conquer, explore, quest, economical complexity and so much more that how can I not be excited! I am 43 now and feel like I am 20 at times!

All I can say here is "Gaming goodness ahead!"

Thou again these are "my personal opinions" and in no way reflect those to Reverie World Studios, 505 games or any subsidiarity there in. (always got to throw that in there! Can't make those number crunchers angry!)

swuopa
02-04-2011, 04:00 AM
It can be short or very long indeed depending on the scenario in question. This is really giving no info way on the current game play (IE I really can't say something directly) but as a gamer (I love saying that) like many of you, I can assure you that you can have epic battles or fast scims all depending again on the scenario.

Is it a siege? how many defense are there, what are the numbers on both sides ? Are the defenses stone work or wood? Did you bring enough siege equipment? or has the defender put up a ton of trebs? Did you have to fight your way to their keep and loose units on the way? Did you get mercenaries to backup your numbers? What is the current experience of your troops overall? Are you going in green or elite? How are the defenders troops? Did he/she establish a range paradise? or did he/she go with Calvary for a sneak attack when you are not looking?

Maybe the attacker is going for a resouce hit to knock out all resources then make a run for it? Perhaps it's a counter manuver for an ally that is really after your other alliance member and this is a ploy run? Does he hold his attack longer then usual? Do you go out to meet him? Do you give chase to only be countered by another force? In the scale of EPIC , I have no doubt you guys will enjoy what you see here.

The questions and answers are endless, you won't be disappointed ;)

So the answer is yes, epic long battles and short as you would expect in pretty much any game you have played. I like to think of it as BFME2 meets Stronghold = awesome baby ;)


-Noel

Thou again these are "my personal opinions" and in no way reflect those to Reverie World Studios, 505 games or any subsidiarity there in. (always got to throw that in there! Thou I am sure a few here agree ;) )

aaaaAAAAARRRGGGHHHH!!!!!
Can i come to your house to watch you play? :o

swuopa
02-04-2011, 04:04 AM
but I'm just glad you guys are out in the forums replying to us thank you for doing what you do and I can't wait to get a look at this game!!!!!

DOUBLE QUOTE

NobleIre
02-04-2011, 10:28 AM
I agree, it's so refreshing to see you out here talking to us - rather than just occasionally throwing out a comment or two every week like some other game devs.

echang
02-05-2011, 09:32 AM
It can't be longer then 30min.. i guess?

Considering that they said in the FAQ section, "most mid-game quests will take around 35 minutes", I would harbor a guess that they would try to arrange PvP battle around that amount of time. Having really long battles would detract interest in the game, as many people do not have time to spend 2-3 hours on a game in one sitting.

Dreadnought
02-05-2011, 10:01 AM
Well I would hazard a guess from what has been said, that if the defender has a strong defences, stone walls, trebs etc then it could well go well over the hour. I mean if a seige is a seige then it doesnt necessarily have to go immediately to battle, I would have thought you could hold under seige for extended periods until the defender either goes to battle, concedes or runs out of resources. If your defences are strong then you can hand over to AI and go off to work without too much worry.

Perhaps you could hand over to AI mid-battle too if you have too, who knows?

Likewise if your houses are made of straw so to speak and your force of 1000 faces a force of 10000 then the battle is likely to last only a few minutes.

Just my thoughts...

LiTos456
02-05-2011, 12:36 PM
The length will really vary depending on the strength of the stronghold, and the size of your and enemy's army, etc.
So they could last from 20 minutes to 2 hours, if not more.

BigX
02-05-2011, 04:44 PM
Well if there are going to be an epic struglles that last an hour or more I hope they add a allow AI to control you armies button for a short duration. Well just enough time to hit the toilet and back. ****ing in a bucket next to the PC will get old real quick otherwise :).

Wolfpack
02-05-2011, 06:39 PM
What happens if you get disconnected?