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Feweh
04-01-2008, 01:32 PM
Well, after viewing the video on Gametrailers and for some reason only hearing about this game from there i have one word.

Amazing.

Never has any game ever combined different races and brought to you a unique castle/siege system. Not to mention it's going to be on the x360 (Thank God).

Well i'm for sure picking up a copy, probably on my xbox so i can avoid the lag due to my ****ty computer.

Anyways, it's so great to finaly see a game that i've been searching for for so long.

Thank you so much.

Chromatism
04-01-2008, 03:19 PM
We have another one!

I welcome you as a fellow adventurer in Noobiness! :D

Redzone
04-01-2008, 05:21 PM
Here I am setting up an account on Saga and then bring up game trailers to see whats new, I see an RTS game that says its an MMO, yet has graphics similar to AOE3 and lots of units of screen. Ok what the deal, How the hell this go under everyones radar?

Jean=A=Luc
04-01-2008, 06:00 PM
Seams the trailer has really managed to garner some attention, DoF needs it.

But I must say that imho the current trailer is pretty bad. Narration is just awful and overdone (I'm sorry but it is) and prevents a good number of people from taking the game seriously. Also, aside from mentioning it's a MMO the trailer makes DoF look pretty generic (humans, orcs, elves, gather resources, fight, blah, blah...). DoF, I think, deserves a better trailer that emphasizes its special features like the interesting magic system, RPG-ish unit combat values, fighting mounts, naval combat, interesting economy and magic systems etc.

I'm sorry for the criticism but I made it with the best intentions in mind. Luckily a lot of people looked beyond and gathered some more information about the game.

Redzone
04-01-2008, 06:11 PM
Your right, the Human, Orc and Elf races are way too overdone. It does look like just another RTS and it could be. I was also hoping for some different looking types too, like human regional groups with a more Japanese or Persian feel to them as well. I always reserve my judgement to when I actually play the game though. None the less its caught my attention.

This game wont be taken seriously until it can prove its truely different from the crowd and that wont come until a playable aspect of the game is released.

The Witch King of Angmar
04-01-2008, 06:23 PM
It'll especially stand out since it has Dragons as a faction.

jap88
04-01-2008, 06:27 PM
Yes, to a gamer that is just skimming through, DoF is going to look like a VERY generic game. Perhaps the appeal they'll see is the MMORTS, and they may see the dragons as a playable faction. Beyond that, however, they probably won't see the depth of the game unless they go search for some background knowledge - something most gamers won't do. Oftentimes, they'll judge by screenshots and a number given on a rating site.

Jean=A=Luc
04-01-2008, 06:45 PM
There is a lot of intellectual laziness among gamers, especially younger ones looking for a quick thrill. I saw comments along the lines of, "Everyone's going to be the dragon, dragons are powerful creatures and therefore imba". They don't even go so far as to consider that the dragon faction will most likely be implemented in some kind of a rational, balanced way. In their mind the developers' train of thought is something like this: "Omg, let's put in dragons, they r strong and bre4the fire, dragonz pwn everythin', ololololoololo..."

I don't mind the generic fantasy races as long as they're well done and DoF has great diversity from what I've seen so far. Better than having Zimblonians, Kraggarhs and Eskimos, "innovation" for its own sake with crappy concept and game play.

But, as I said, despite these negatives, the trailer seams to have had a positive outcome.

Chromatism
04-02-2008, 03:16 AM
I have to agree Jean Luc, there is a great deal of intellectual laziness. I could name a few factors that I feel are genuinely destroying the gaming industry as I know it... Too few times do you actually see a company really taking the chance and striking out for a decent property that really puts your mind to some good use.

I remember a recent interview with Cliffy B (Gears of War Lead Designer) who stated, rather cynically, that gamers don't wish to learn the equivalent of German before they actually start playing the game.

This truly does seem to be the age of consolization. People just want a quick fix between WoW sessions (which I personally feel is a hellish, abject tedium farted out of the crack of Hades himself!) which means a shallow, though possibly fun experience that doesn't have the depth to grip you like some of the classics.


As for the trailer, I'd like to think it does say something positive about those who did manage to look past the /possible/ mediocrity of the game mechanics flaunted.

And to be honest, even if I did have any fears, just reading the feature list put me at ease. But that's the point, I'll actually take the time to dig for the facts! Which, as Jap88 mentioned, is something that your average gamer of today simply won't do. I genuinely feel that DoF is in very safe hands, and I'm seriously looking forward to helping with the beta and playing the end result! I just hope more people really do take it on board...

Redzone
04-02-2008, 08:33 AM
At the same time your starting to see certain studios that are starting to appear that work on longer projects. These include, Valve, Maxim, Blizzard, Infinity Ward, Relic and other great studios that take lots of time to create one single product and are never hampered for taking as much time as they need. A similar division in industry studios already occured in the film industry long before. Developers now must prove to producers that they can put out on a time frame before they are given free raine to create what they want.

Lepakko
04-02-2008, 09:29 AM
True i have seen many game rush and they fail becouse of that. And true the trailer wasnt super but becouse it show that they are making unique rts with lots of tactical things on it. It got me hooked. I first thought it was april days joke untill after video i looked more in to it. Only becouse the guy in video sounded so.. Mm.. like in poor movie trailer

And in tactic games game balance is realy important, no one like games where only 1 faction or race can dominate. But there can be total balance only if game has 1 race/faction, but its booring. We can come realy close balance with many race/factions but its not allways easy if we want them to be realy diffirent from each other. But i just hope they finish this game with great balance and that it makes to the gamers hearts.

Liljagare
04-03-2008, 11:39 PM
I seriously thought that it was a april-fools joke the trailer, saw it first on april 1st and the voice acting was just... well, I had a good laugh! :D


Nice suprise to see that there IS such a game in development though, it seems highly interesting!

frankein_fish
04-04-2008, 01:10 AM
Luckily to me i saw it looooong before 1st April :p. In fact it was almost a year ago :D
But i agree with the voiche acting being wierd :rolleyes:

Village Sock
04-04-2008, 05:34 AM
Yeah, that voice acting gets me every time!

Puppeteer
04-04-2008, 12:26 PM
Will check it out... Now!
hmm can't see it. darn!

Ovocean
04-15-2008, 03:28 AM
Will check it out... Now!
hmm can't see it. darn!It's on DoF's website.

I don't know if I'd have been seeking further information on the game if I had seen this trailer in first place. It is not reassuring on its quality or polishing.
Though I'm most interested in the MMO aspect and the information was in.

Jean=A=Luc
04-15-2008, 07:26 AM
The trailer doesn't need to have any kind of special "voice". The best thing, imo, would be to actually have one of the developers talk normally and explain the game's features as they're being shown in the trailer. I think that would inspire much more confidence than any kind of "acting".

Darvin
04-15-2008, 12:35 PM
I typically agree that no voice acting is better than bad voice acting. Narration and unit-responses are particularly critical. I hope Reverie can find good voices for the final product.

The Witch King of Angmar
04-15-2008, 06:13 PM
Same here. On one video I saw the voice actor was shouting about attacking an enemy from 100yds. away as if they were already in battle.

LordSlayer
04-19-2008, 04:24 PM
You're all right, Reverie seriously needs someone to do a serious trailer, even if it's one of the producers explaining the game.

The Witch King of Angmar
04-19-2008, 08:15 PM
Maybe they could seperatly break down each faction and explain the units and basic gameplay for said faction. That would be awesome.

Neotyguy40
04-20-2008, 10:33 PM
The movie was just WAY too over narrated. It felt like my sister was trying to actually... Talk

LordSlayer
04-23-2008, 06:19 PM
The movie was just WAY too over narrated. It felt like my sister was trying to actually... Talk

Let's hope they don't take your sister for the next trailer :D

Neotyguy40
04-23-2008, 07:42 PM
Let's hope they don't take your sister for the next trailer :D

Don't worry, my parents are about to send her to military school because she lacks discipline (and I may have changed her grades a bit :rolleyes: ) jk, but unless the next trailer is about the marines, then I don't think she will be in it.

LordSlayer
04-24-2008, 04:33 PM
unless the next trailer is about the marines, then I don't think she will be in it.

Lucky for us marines (as far as we know) are probably not going to be a part if the game.

Neotyguy40
04-24-2008, 11:36 PM
Lucky for us marines (as far as we know) are probably not going to be a part if the game.

Maybe Reverie may destroy their medieval idea???:eek:

LordSlayer
04-25-2008, 03:27 PM
Maybe Reverie may destroy their medieval idea???:eek:

This far in the game!! They might as well scrap the game and make a new one.

Neotyguy40
04-25-2008, 03:47 PM
This far in the game!! They might as well scrap the game and make a new one.

Your making me cry :( they won't do that... They will still pull through...

LordSlayer
04-25-2008, 03:48 PM
Your making me cry :( they won't do that... They will still pull through...

Let's hope they don't. They have been making it since 2001. Pulling the plug now would just mean they wasted 6 years.

Neotyguy40
04-25-2008, 03:55 PM
Let's hope they do. They have been making it since 2001. Pulling the plug now would just mean they wasted 6 years.

Umm, you basically just said:

Lets hope they pull the plug, have them waste 6 years.

LordSlayer
04-25-2008, 03:59 PM
Umm, you basically just said:

Lets hope they pull the plug, have them waste 6 years.

Sry edited.

Neotyguy40
04-25-2008, 04:02 PM
Sry edited.

Don't worry, it would be kinda weird if any one would want it to die...

Puppeteer
04-25-2008, 04:22 PM
Ugh can you lot put your similar trains of thoughts in one post? No wonder Reverie are reluctant to read these threads...

Jean=A=Luc
04-25-2008, 04:36 PM
I understood the "Abandon the medieval idea" as a joke, I'm a little baffled by the fact you discussed it seriously.

In any case I also feel lost in all the new posts but I think it's good that the forum's active.

Neotyguy40
04-25-2008, 04:58 PM
Ugh can you lot put your similar trains of thoughts in one post? No wonder Reverie are reluctant to read these threads...

Your right... Whenever 2 people are online at once, a flood of posts comes...

The Witch King of Angmar
04-25-2008, 05:50 PM
There used to be only about 50 or so active members. Now it's risen to over 100. Some may have only 1 or so posts.

Neotyguy40
04-25-2008, 06:15 PM
There used to be only about 50 or so active members. Now it's risen to over 100. Some may have only 1 or so posts.

But they aren't very popular, as in they don't log in very often or post alot.

LordSlayer
04-26-2008, 07:07 AM
There used to be only about 50 or so active members. Now it's risen to over 100. Some may have only 1 or so posts.

They are actually only like 5-10 really active members. The others log on once in a while.

Neotyguy40
04-27-2008, 12:38 AM
They are actually only like 5-10 really active members. The others log on once in a while.

I know, but there are over 200 members, although almost none of them are active...